PNA Connect 2025 - SOAR. - Part 4
The Pacific Northwest Association of the Church of God gathers annually at rotating host churches. This year we gathered in Spokane at New Horizons Community Church. These conversations are about what we heard and experienced at PNA Connect 2025 and go beyond, listening for God's divine echoes calling to us, reminding of us of who He is and who we are because of Him. The theme this year was SOAR. out of Isaiah 40.
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All right, guys. Welcome in to another episode of Beyond Sunday. And in this one is a special edition of the PNA Connect. Uh this will be part uh maybe three, maybe four, but we're having conversations that uh take us beyond our PNA Connect gathering back in early October >> uh to what God is still stirring within us. And so we're joined by uh Pastor Zo, chaplain at Warm Pacific University. And so thanks for being with us. >> Yes, a pleasure to be here for sure. Always glad seeing both of you.
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>> Yeah, it's good. >> Well, and thanks for thanks for being part of Connect. We um as we were preparing and planning for Connect this year and we felt like uh it was really clear the the messages that God had for his people. And so then we were like, "Okay, so who are the the people?" And actually both Devon and I were like, "Oh, if we're going to talk about being empowered and what it's like to to um actually live and work out of the power of the spirit, um you your name is what
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came to mind cuz uh just because of how God's using you um in a way that really doesn't make sense if it's not empowered by the spirit." And so, thanks for saying yes to that invitation and being part of that. Um you you brought a a word um God used you in that room and in that space to speak to people. So, um, we're grateful he said yes. >> Yeah. >> Amen. Amen. We give him all the glory. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Hey, as we dive into this conversation though, we're going to take
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a look at this video and then we'll dive uh back in. Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat up All right, guys. Welcome back. So, yeah, uh, Pastor Zo, you you brought a word on empowerment and what it is to be empowered. And so just uh now we're a number of weeks out from connect and um we just love to hear like kind of what's still sitting for you or if there's things that maybe um I know at one point you closed your computer I think and you were like I don't even know I'm not even
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using these notes anymore. So maybe there was some really like great piece of gold in those notes that we didn't get before but anything that that God's bringing to mind we just love to hear um kind of what's still on your heart. >> Yes. Well, uh, one thing is to always start from the beginning, the Genesis and no pun intended, but in Genesis chapter 1, uh, verses 23, 26- 28, he shares about how he gave man power, authority, dominion, uh, not over other people, >> but, you know, fish and and all sorts of
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things. But the thing that really sticks out to me that may seem very very elementary and those are the things that are very very easy to skip over is verse number 28 when he says the Bible says that God blessed them. And I think that's easy to overlook >> because there are certain things we go through in life like God where are you? >> Yeah. And um I I taught a message recently, you know, instead of asking why me, say why not me. >> Because God wants to use your story. He
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wants to use that weakness. He wants to use that opposition. He wants to use all of that. And and but we have to understand number one, what was the first part in verse 28? God blessed them. And we always have to start from that premise. No matter what it looks like with our physical eyes and I think I mentioned this, we don't walk by sight but insight. >> That's what faith is. This >> inside you you don't see it with this. But this turns into this eventually. Jesus cursed the fig tree and he didn't
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think he took no thought of it. And the disciples were shocked when they came back a few days later like look Jesus like th this is kingdom. This is how we live. And so it's very important for us to understand number one, God blessed us. What did he bless you with? It's very important for us to understand this because a lot of times we're looking for the finished product. And God never gives us the finished product. Nine times out of 10, it's always a seed. >> Yeah. >> Because when we we see that, he says,
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"Be fruitful." And you know, I talk about this all the time. There's a big difference between the gifts of the spirit and the fruit of the spirit. >> Gifts of the spirit is exactly what it is. God gifts you something. It's like, man, I don't even have to work that hard with it. And that's what gets you in trouble because you don't have to have character >> to operate the gifts of the spirit. You don't have to have integrity. None of that. You know, the gifts
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>> and callings of God come without >> repentance. And that's why he said many many shall say Lord Lord haven't I prophesied in your name and did all this >> right >> apart from me I never knew you. So we ought not ever be moved by gifts you know so uh that's important to understand God blessed them number one then he said be fruitful and so what that means is that seed that's on the inside of you needs to be cultivated through mentorship through discipline
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disciplehip same thing. Amen. >> A a process of time. And a lot of times when we think of power, it's like, oh, something to move in now. I want it now. And it's like, you know, this instantaneous thing, but that's not what fruit is about. Fruit is always about process. And God does everything from the end to the beginning. And so that's why it's important for us to be obedient to instructions that he gives. That may not sound >> like common sense. Yeah. >> And so with that he says I bless them be
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fruitful and after you start multiplying after you start being fruitful now the next thing is to multiply the fruit and where a lot of us find ourselves is that instead of multiplying fruit we're multiplying unfruitfulness >> which is disobedience and the whole nine. So I think when you're talking about power it's very important to understand that discipline comes with that accountability comes with that responsibility comes with that because uh you can be gifted talented and you
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can start going wayward and then everything just is perverted >> used for other purposes and so I think it's very important for us to understand those uh three things in Genesis chapter 1 verse 28 8. He blessed them. Then he said, "Be fruitful, then multiply." And through those that process comes influence and dominion in whatever your sphere of influence is over your classroom, over your school, uh over the operating room, whatever place you find yourself in, God has called you to dominate, but he doesn't
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skip steps. So those are three. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Talk about power. >> Yeah. One one of the areas that um was so um it blessed me in being there at PNA connect was um just as the spirit was leading you and praying over uh those who are coming forward and um right calling out in your name Jesus right Holy Spirit come this sense of even in in the prep work of God what are you leading us into for this weekend for our people who will come and gather and um over and over it was echoed of just
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there's a sense that many of our our people our church of God family our PNA family there's weariness in the in in in walking with God walking out this life and so as that as as that invitation is offered and people come and it's just like Holy Spirit come was a was an echo of what even in the planning and preparation of uh and not knowing what was to come fully as we were you know offering spaces for people and individuals and and and okay, God, we're going to give you this. We want to give
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you the whole space, the whole weekend, and we trust you in all of it. Um, but in in that one, it in that moment, there sense to be like, this is what God had been speaking to us and and here in this moment, seeing it come and and those responding uh to the invitation, come receive the Holy Spirit. Come Holy Spirit. And um and many afterwards just um you know that was a moment for them of like here here the Lord is moving. >> Holy Spirit's moving and I cannot I I cannot keep moving without calling it
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attention to it, stopping and knowing like Holy Spirit you're here. >> You're here with me and and you're empowering me. Uh and that was a powerful moment. So thank you for just being led by the spirit to offer that. Uh and that that was and you don't know but that was a heart cry for me in the in the planning and preparation that uh there would be an invitation and those that would respond of just being filled with the Holy Spirit empowered by him that we can are doing this our own we
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can be weary. >> Yes, >> we do we we don't need to be walking in weariness or tiredness that in this life we will have trouble but take heart. I've overcome the world. So it's that piece of hey he he is here in this room will you say yes and respond? >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yeah. Well, and I think in that same one of the things that stuck for me, um, outside of just like you brought a a a powerful word, um, but outside of that, even the o the obedience to let the
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spirit lead, even in something, uh, maybe maybe kind of small or trivial of like I'm not even going off my notes right now because God's putting something in me. And then yeah, and the calling forward and the the um the praying over those coming forward and and the the invitation of like spirit come and come into this this space and this person and the and that um that that's a heart cry not just as we've been planning connect but even in the last number of years as there's been some transition in in the
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district um I mean the one of the foundations of our movement is holiness and one of the things we've talked a lot about as leaders is Uh somehow we kind of got this holiness idea of like okay uh if we're if we're a holiness people that means that we're really really good. >> We're just good at doing the right thing. >> We're like religious. And we have this conversation all the time where it's like how when did we become a people who are actually like uh weirded out by the
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spirit or like we're fearful of the spirit. And that was one of the things that for me as a leader and as somebody who I mean this has been a heart prayer for a number of years now because it felt very much um you know as as Frank myself and and now Devon's on the board as we stepped into these leadership roles and the prayer was like God what do you have for your PNA family um and this was one of the things it was like remind them that like my spirit is here and that I actually desire to move and
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and this isn't something to be scared of. And that's what I sensed in um in what God was doing through you in that space was this invitation and a response from God's people. people in the room who I know uh this has been a wrestle for them of like okay but is the spirit kind of weird like we'll talk about God and Jesus but that third part's like and so in that space there was for me as a leader there was a space of like yes God this is what you put on our hearts and this is what we've prayed for and you're
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showing up um you're being faithful and your people are responding um and so that was really cool to see um yeah >> that is absolutely awesome And I think the main thing is to um because number one, Church of God is an absolute miracle >> of how God has done things. And I think it's very important for people to understand and I think I mentioned this earlier uh that monuments and movements can work simultaneously. They should not bump heads. And uh monuments are very important. You always need to know where
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you come from. You need to know your DNA. Need to know whose shoulders you stand on. It's very important not to look back and be like, "Oh, we don't need that or that was them." No, no, you are who you are because of the blood, sweat, tears, prayers, sacrifice, fasting that forefathers did. It was not. How do you think you got to where you are? >> Yeah. Right. >> Four schools. >> I mean, >> yeah. >> You know, but at the same time, we need to understand that monuments should be
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fueled the fuel for movements. >> Yeah, >> it should cause us to like, wow, what what else you got, God? You know, and not cause paralysis. So, I think when you have a balance of the two and realize they're not enemies. >> Yeah. >> They work hand in hand. I I think it it forms a wonderful symphony. I play a note, you play a note. It's not the same note, but it's in the family, and we can make wonderful music together. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean how many stories in
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scripture and and re recounting Abraham, Isaac, Jacob. Then then they go on to retelling the story of God's faithfulness and his and and those who have responded by faith to go where God was directing that in the same way are are we calling out those who have come before. Yes. in scripture, but also in our movement to know we, like you said, stand on the shoulders of these who have come before, who have prayed, who have fasted, who have who have cried the tears of of of of desiring to see God's
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faithfulness. >> Yes. >> Come here and now and in the generation to come, although they may never see it and and for generations, right, where they didn't see the fruitfulness uh that would that would come and grow on the vine. >> Yeah. Yeah. when we do that, when we're when we are uh you know, those monuments help us remember or help us expect God to do it again. I guess that's the other piece of it. And and so even something like uh showing up to something like connect, are we expecting like, oh, the
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spirit's going to move here? Like I can't wait to get there because yeah, I'm going to see people and that's cool and I might hear some good speakers, but I also know that man, when we gather together, I'm expecting God's going to show up and move. And so there's something about those those monuments, those uh those past stories and those calling out of what God's done that's like, yeah, well then I expect you to keep doing that, God. Like this is what I know of you. And so I think um even
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even in that space is like there's a reminder that's and maybe even like I I don't know there's like it's woven into us as humans. So, in that moment when it's like I we we had a gal I had a gal there uh from my church and in fact we did a podcast uh one of these episodes with her and she uh part of her story um is she grew up in church and she grew up in love with Jesus and and whatever and then walked away from because of some choices and relationships and whatever. And what she told us was that at connect
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she felt the spirit for the first time in 20 years. And there's this like um in that it's like she recognized the spirit because that's woven into who she is as a person. Like that that's what she's designed for. And so there's something about this like every time that I get to encounter the spirit, there's this further beckoning into like yes, I just want more of that. And it's this reminder of like this is what I was designed for. And so I'm just going to keep expecting and I'm going to keep
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anticipating like God, what else? You you just said it a minute ago, pastor. Like what else do you have, God? what else you have for me? Um, and when we get to do that together, then I get to hear the way he's done that for you and the way he's done that for you. And there's just this like >> I don't know this calling forward um that that happens. >> Yeah. And isn't that the movement, right? That's >> the movement piece that these are monuments or mile markers of God's
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faithfulness. might it move us forward in the direction in the space that he's calling us to see his kingdom come, his will be done in spaces that um darkness is pervasive where brokenness um you know is is obvious where there there lacks a hope. >> Yeah. >> Uh and and love that is he calling us into those spaces to be the light in in those in those areas. Um and that because darkness can cannot exist where light is shining into it, right? It must it must go. It must flee. Yeah.
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>> Yeah. I I must say that um Shay, when you bought that word, I was like, "Oh my goodness." >> I mean, you you have a special anointing on your life. It's kind of hard to explain, but you have that it factor. And the thing is is that you're yourself when you do it. >> Like you just flow. >> And there's such a special anointing on you. And um I was like about to bite the back out of that. >> I was like, "Man, look at that." And Evan, man, just what you were talking
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about with what how God uh dealt with you at the school. >> Yeah. >> And when you were talking about dark places, see, we should never be afraid of dark places. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> That's where he's called us to go. I I don't It's hard for me to comprehend. I understand. Be ye separate. Come out from among them. I get it. >> Yeah. >> But some point in time, >> right, right? >> You got to get in the game, you know, like like, okay, I'm injured. I'm hurt a
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little bit or whatever. Let me come in here for halftime. Let me recalculate my GPS. Let me get some fluids. Let me see how I can change this plan around. But sooner or later, yeah, I have to get back out there and I have to be strong enough through the Holy Spirit, >> right, >> to be able to shine a light in darkness. So, I think a lot of times we run away from things that we should be running to. >> Yeah. Right. >> By his by his spirit, by his power, by his anointing. >> Yes.
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>> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. And that's the whole I mean in the context of Isaiah 40 and this idea of of soaring and and right the like you'll run and not grow weary and walk and not grow faint. That whole idea is like okay um without the spirit that's not true. I'm getting tired and I'm getting tired quick. And and I I think part of the the tricky part about that is actually it doesn't happen right away. So, I can do a certain amount of good things without like in my own
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strength. Um, and it'll break down, but there's a certain um because we've all been there, right? Where it's like I'm trying to do the thing. I'm trying to do the ministry and I am burnt out and I'm exhausted or it's not, you know, whatever. And then the contrast of like uh and this is your story. So, this is why you came to mind as we were praying through who this should be. But it's like then we can look at somebody who's like on paper it actually doesn't make
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sense for all the things that they're doing. That has to be the spirit. And even when we jumped on today on this call though, you were telling us like, "Hey, it's been a crazy day." And as you started listing the things you're doing, I mean, we were joking like, "Well, shoot, I'm already tired just listening to you." But the other thing I can't help but notice is like all those things you talked about, I'm like everything that you got called out to or that you
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got pulled to, the spirit was already there. like you you were like, "Yeah, so the spirit moved here, so I had to go there and then the spirit fell here, so I had to go there." I was like, "Shoot, he kept me busy today." But also like as you're talking about not being afraid of dark places, it's like if God is in the business of putting light into dark places and putting the world back together, that means he's in the broken spaces. If I want to be with God, then I
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guess I better be there, too. And so that that I don't know. Even as you're just saying that, Zo, there's this flip of like, yeah, why would I be scared of a place where God is, >> right? >> Yeah. I don't know. That's good. >> Absolutely. And and you know, it is a balancing act. Um >> you can be too much on one side of the spectrum and too much on the other. And I mean it requires you taking care of yourself, eating right, going to sleep when you need to at least uh you know
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significant portion of the time you as a pastor you just can't do it. But the thing is um unfortunately there's a stat out there about uh pastors life expecties are like 62 or something like that. I said that is not going to be my story. And it's not me speaking out of my flesh, but it's like, listen, let the ministry speak to you. >> Yeah. >> Don't try to duplicate what you saw. Somebody else that might not be your grace. You don't quite understand how that got started. Some people planted a
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church like I did. Others moved into a church that already had a budget or what. It's just too many things. So, it's important for us to understand number one, let me stay in my lane. What is it that God has called me to do specifically? And >> what is the season? Yeah. >> For that's extremely important because once you start doing things out of season and in your own strength, that's where a lot of things start breaking down. And of course, God has mercy on us when we mess up, but I'm just talking
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principles. That's where a lot of things start going lacking. uh family issues, uh health issu a whole n whole lot of things that people don't know. And one thing about me being in ministry, you know, I'm not a novice. And I've seen behind the scenes when we've had to do funerals and some people like, why God? Why? This is a man or woman of faith. >> Yeah. But I saw behind the scenes, >> you know, somebody's diagnosed with cancer or whatever and they're still
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eating Skittles, >> right? >> Let's let's be practical here, you know? So, you're praying >> for a change and people are praying for you and all this and people don't know the backstory that, >> you know, that's that's what was going on. >> Yeah. >> Don't let's not pin this on God. So I'm just using that example to just you know let's stay in our own lane. What is it that God is telling me personally and did I overstay my time or it's a lot of
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dynamics that we have to ask ourselves and that's what mentorship is for. I have accountability. I have about five people uh that I'm accountable to and most of them are in their 80s. >> Yeah. Ones who have seen some things. >> Yeah. >> Exactly. you know, and so it's just a lot of things that goes with the power and people like power, power, power power. But, uh, I forgot the king in the Bible. Uh, his dad was a king and so he asked the elders what to do. They were
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like, hey, treat them kindly, >> you know, work your way in there smooth. >> Yeah. >> Then he asked his peers, "What you think?" Oh, tell them if you think the yoke of my father was heavy, you ain't seen nothing yet. Yeah. End >> up losing the kingdom. And in another case is Josiah. >> Yeah. >> He was a great man of God. He brought godly principles back to the kingdom and everything. And sooner or later, here's this guy ain't had nothing to do with
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Josiah. He was trying to go up north. And Josiah was like, "Hey, what you doing?" He's like, "Sir, I have nothing to do with you. I have some beef with the king up north." Josiah put his nose in something that wasn't his business and he lost his life. Great man of God, did some great things, but he went out of his lane, out of his assignment, and that caused premature death on his part. So, it's very important that we understand that uh that hey, God has called me for this.
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>> Yeah. >> Until he says any differently, this is what I'm going to do. I thank God for how he's using sister Sally May uh brother collar green but for me I know what I'm supposed to be doing and I'm staying right here until he tells me differently. So that has a lot to do with being responsible for the power as well. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's like coming to God surrendered versus pining for the thing I saw that looked really good in my own eyes um without uh or forgetting that if
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I come to God surrendered actually that's a really good thing if in what God has in store right a blessing a an overflow um uh a work of ministry I mean even just seeing God's kingdom come you know those blessings like if I come surrendered uh likely those good things will I I'll be God will open my eyes to see them versus pining for the thing that looked good for somebody else that they were doing and I was like I kind of want that that looked good but uh without recognizing like here here Lord
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here I am >> um you know Isaiah's even words here I am send me right I mean I okay I'll surrender I will surrender to your will and your way and I want to be used by you I want to be in your in your will and your way I want to be a part of your kingdom come so use me show me open my eyes to see it >> yes or sometimes Even I think it's like a um because we a lot of times we think that we're we're in the right space, right? So it's like look at this good thing I've built for
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you, God. Would you come and give me the power to like, you know, make this thing go? Like I made it. It's it's so good, right? And he's like, "Yeah, but I actually asked like this is what I had for And so there's like and and I think I guess I I say that kind of tongue and cheek, but um it's not always that we have this like prideful or this outright spirit of like um I want what they have or whatever. Um and that's part of the humility and like an an utter surrendering that's like God, I have to
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be so in tune with you that I actually know where you are and where you aren't leading me. Um because it's really easy to get tripped up by good things. It's not it's not always a a heart posture of of pride or greed or you know desire for whatever. Um and maybe that's the thing behind the thing the underlying thing but uh there are places where it's like yeah this is the thing that I've made for you God and he's like I didn't ask for that like you know >> the biggest the big difference between a
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good thing and a god thing is one letter. >> Yeah. Right. Exactly. >> Right. No. And you know with the Tower of Babel, they ran into the same thing. When you look into it deeper, especially from the Jewish point of thought, uh, you know, when they built the Tower of Babel, number one, their hearts weren't right. But even the material that they used, you know, they didn't use stone. They used brick and mortar. That is manmade products. >> Stone. >> Praise God. Jesus was the stone that the
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builder rejected. chief cornerstone. Daniel had a a a dream, you know, about the rock and, you know, that that was a kingdom that could not be shaken. And so, it's very important that we don't uh be led by manmade philosophies. It can help aid us, but that shouldn't be something that we look to for our direction. And so, very important because it can be a good thing on the outside. Hey, we're building this. Look at Oh, yeah. get it up to God, you know, but listen, God called them to spread
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out, not to come in. >> Right. >> Yeah. >> And come in. Unity >> y >> is a good thing, >> right? Right. >> But not if he told you to spread out is not it's not a god thing. >> Good thing or a god thing. Yeah. It draws me back to Isaiah 1 where they're offering sacrifices uh like so many where this is like my the courts are run red with blood on these sacrifices and God's like I don't need I don't need any more barbecue meat and I don't need any
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more of your prayers because your heart's not towards me. You're not attuned to what I want for you and you you're doing these religious and ritual acts and um things that you see in the word to do but your hearts are far from me. Where are you taking care of the of the orphan, of the widow, of the oppressed? Where are you stepping into those places? And you keep offering me all these things of these ritual rights and traditions and you aren't hearing me. >> Yeah, missed the
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>> I felt I felt that rebuke. >> You had your face, you had that face on you get sometimes. >> But that that that's true because he calls us to uh do self-examination. He even tells us that with communion. >> Yes. >> You know, examine yourself. So, >> we ought to have enough Holy Spirit on the inside of us. >> Yeah. >> To be like, "Oh, >> that's not quite right. Oh, I don't want to deal with it." But at least, you know, I deal with the students a lot and
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they may come feeling bad about things and I'm like, "No, you're in a healthy place." >> Yeah. >> Because you feel bad. Now, if you was like, "Oh, I'm good." >> Right. then we really need to talk. You know, you're in another category, but but it it's just very important that we're able to allow the Holy Spirit to show us ourselves. And the word is a mirror, you know, and we need to just continue to look in it. And all of us have blind spots.
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>> You know, I appreciate y'all's relationship, you know. I know y'all uh respect the anointing on each other's life, but if you see something a little weird, it's like, uh, come on, put it back in the road. you know, got to have that in your life. People who respect you, but they're not enamored >> with you, you know, and and that's what I have to have in my life. >> Yeah. >> Stay healthy because I've seen it the other way. And I do not want that,
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>> right? >> Yeah. We talk about that a lot. like the the uh everybody likes to talk about a ride or die kind of friend, but like I need the friend that's like, "Hey, actually I think you're going the wrong way." So, let's right like the the truth. Um and that's important. It matters. >> Yeah, that's good. Um as we wrap this up uh and this conversation discussion about PNA Connect, is there something that still is a residual something that's still stirring in your heart from the
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PNA Connect weekend? Um again it was so great to have you there and uh being with us through the weekend and representative of Warner Pacific University. U but as we wrap this up yeah is there one thing or something from the weekend that still is is is with you? >> I don't think there's anything from the perspective of what I um presented. I think it's more so from what I've witnessed and what I want Church of God as a whole, but specifically PNA Connect to know, you are special.
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>> Regardless of what opposition or things you're dealing with right now and like, oh, how we going to make this work and all that, you are special. You have been called of God. You are not going anywhere. >> Yeah. Like God has called this a movement for a reason. >> Yeah. >> And sometimes there's turbulence. Sometimes there's misunderstandings. Sometimes there's like why me? I just >> Yeah. >> Why did YOU CALL ME TO THIS? But there is a purpose for it. And you are very
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special. And God is not done. And what I want to encourage everyone in the Church of God family is to remember the story of Elijah's bones when when they threw it in there. And I I ministered it there. But I need you to understand the principles of that. When they threw that dead man into his grave because they saw the enemy coming, >> there was enough anointing in his bones to revive a dead man. And I'm here to tell you, there's some areas in the church where you may feel like, man,
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this dead is over, whatever. But don't forget the anointing in your fathers. And that's why I told you monuments are important because there's still anointing in those prayers that were prayed. Listen, God is a generational God. And sometimes we put him in a box and think that one person supposed to see everything. No, we are a word in a sentence. and what he says regardless if you see it or not is going to come to pass. And so it's very important for us to understand that oo hallelujah the
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anointing is in the bones in the structure of church of God. And as people connect uh to whatever area, whatever part of the body it is, you're going to cause be caused to revive again and hop up again. And you're going to be able to go out because of the residue that have been left by your forefathers. And now you're going to be able to carry out the assignment with wisdom, with power, with strength, with knowhow, with endurance. You're going to be able to endure hardness as a good soldier. If
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you're wearied with with the footmen, how can you handle the horses? Come on, somebody. The horses are coming. You have the power already on the inside of you. Remember, God blessed them. >> Yeah. >> And said, "Be fruitful." >> Then multiply. You know, I I'm dating myself here. And I don't know if y'all remember Robin Harris back in the day. He was a comedian and he came out with Baby Kids and they said, "We don't die, we multiply. AND THAT'S HOW CHURCH OF GOD IS.
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>> YEAH. RIGHT. >> People pass, but the mantle falls on the next person. >> And so I want you to understand, realize how important the movement is. >> Yeah. >> And what you have at your disposal, you are not just any other movement. You are not ordinary. You are extraordinary. You have been called to to walk out a supernatural life and to be able to do things that people will be in awe of because there is an anointing that hasn't died that is still on this movement. And I just want to encourage
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everybody that is involved. Take the blinders off. Ask God to remove the blinders. >> Yeah. You are in a new season and you are here for such a time as this to shine that light before men so they may see the good works and glorify the father which is in heaven. Not glorify you but glorify the father which is in heaven because they're like I know him. I know they've been weak that only God could have did that. Come on now. But we overcome by the blood of the lamb and the words of our testimonies. And I'm
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here to tell you, church of God, is full of testimonies. And I want you to open your spiritual eyes and realize what is in your house. >> Stop. >> Yeah. >> That's the final word. >> I was gonna say top. Go ahead. You >> No, that's good. That's good. >> Yeah. Well, I think in just in the at the tale of that because that's so powerful, Pastor Zo, um I feel like you just took us to church, so that's great. But but one of the things that you said
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that's uh at Connect that stuck with me and it's it's sits with what you're talking about. I don't know exactly how you worded it, but you said something like uh if you're if you're praying for revival, like it's already here. It's already happening. Um, and that reminder of like I I don't know, we get so blinded or stuck in our little space and it is this like heart cry like God would you, you know, come send a revival and it's like yeah, open your eyes. The
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spirit never stopped moving. The spirit has not stopped working. And even I think in even in the small ways, I mean, we jumped on this call and you're like, "Yeah, I was here. I was there. The spirit did this. I had to pray for this person." That's revival. And uh I heard it I've heard it this definition of revival like uh where uh the supernatural things that God meant to be ordinary for his people like we're we see those things and we're experiencing those things and again it it goes back
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to maybe what we we started this conversation with but we have become so leery or weirded out by the spirit and it's like this is actually what God intended to be normal. Um, and so everything you're talking about, like those reminders, those stories, those those things, um, they call us back to this, like this is what it's supposed to be and this is what God has for us. That's the other piece of this like, uh, the power of the spirit is the gift that God has has like it's right there. And
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so, um, yeah, I think that's even in what you just said, the thing that sits for me is like, >> I don't know, like stop praying for, begging for, I don't know if I want to say stop praying for revival, but notice and recognize it's here. It's happening >> and we could step into it if if we want to be part of what God's already doing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So good. >> It's so good. Um, also I think that that that portion was just a sound clip.
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We're going to pull pull that out because that is like um all of it is is is true and what God is inviting us into. And um and if we if we will open our eyes, >> if if we will take the blinders off, as you say, we will see it. We'll see we'll see those places. And so I I I want to encourage those who are are listening or watching this or will be listening and watching this to um >> just be continuing to pray. Pray for Warner Pacific University. pray for uh Pastor Zo and others uh who are on
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campus there. And this is a mission field. It's a mission field where where those are hearing about the good news of Jesus and a relationship with him and are giving their whole lives. >> Uh and and then also being educated to be uh to be ministers in the marketplace to in the places that God sends them that they're being educated and trained into that they will be bringing the good news into those spaces. And so I encourage um those who are watching and listening, be in prayer. be in prayer of
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God's kingdom to come. And for those who've been put in those places to help uh disciple and lead and walk with these individuals that they will be empowered to do so in those spaces and and show up in the ways that uh Pastor Zo, you just already shared before when we started recording this of ways that God's moving even just today. Yeah, >> God is moving. And so I want to say thank you for being with us. Um, and for those who are listening and watching, um, we we hope and pray that your
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conversations be going beyond PNA Connect and and calling out a story of of God's kingdom breaking in and you're being encouraged that that is something you get we get to be invited into walk with Jesus. >> Yeah. I love the PNA Connect because it's a it's a chance to reconnect and connect and hear stories of what God's been doing around our PNA family and it's good to be here. >> I love the PNA Connect because the relationships that are represented here and just the collaboration and
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camaraderie of the leaders in our district. I love the PNA connect because one, free coffee. >> Way to go, New Horizons. I think it's important because um it's an opportunity for us to connect with other pastors and for us to know that we're not alone in this wonderful work that we get to do. And um it's just a great time to connect with other folks. PNA Connect is important because not only is it a space for us to come to to say hi to people we haven't seen in a while to build connection, but it's also
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the place that we get to come and hear collectively from God for what he's doing already, the way the kingdom's already breaking through in our district, and for what he's inviting us into going forward. >> I love the PNA Connection because it's an awesome opportunity to reignite our plans as ministry leaders and connect as a family to get ready for the year ahead. >> I love the PNA Connect because I love connecting with other people. I love the PNA Connect because it's a
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great way to connect with other churches in the area as well as other churches that are farther away that we don't always get to communicate with. I love the PNA Connect because it is a time to connect with fellow pastors and ministry leaders and to just pause, reflect, and be inspired to continue on the work of the ministry for the sake of the kingdom. >> We love Boy Coffee. Woohoo. as they go back to their respective locations and regions. Father God, I thank you Lord that they Lord God will
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expel darkness in that area because they are the carriers of your glory in the mighty name of Jesus.
