Beyond Sunday: Content Walking with Jesus
Catch up: this week’s Sunday morning message.
Is walking with Jesus enough for this journey or do I need more from this world? The things of this world will pass away but the glory of God will remain. Be careful in where you place your hope.
Impact Campus Ministries Henry Gallanger - Campus Minister at Centralia College
www.impacttheu.com
Catch up: this week’s Sunday morning message.
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All [Music] right, everyone. Welcome to the Beyond Sunday podcast. Uh the space where we get to carry the conversation beyond Sunday. Today is a fun one because we've got Henry with us again. Uh and you guys got to team preach this week, so that was kind of cool. Um I also got to have Jamie join me here at NextStep, but she's not able to be with us today. So, uh, we'll get into the conversation about what God's still saying, but before we do, take a look at this video. [Music] Heat. Heat.
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[Music] All [Music] right, guys. As we dive into the conversation, um Shrea, tell us what was the big idea and the main text uh for this Sunday. >> Uh yeah, so we're talking about being content uh as we walk with Jesus, like being content with Jesus, knowing he sustains and provides. Um, and we were in a few different places as we usually are, but Luke 12 is kind of where we were, uh, sitting mostly. Um, I also was in, well, actually a number of different places, but mostly Luke 12. Um, and I
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think for you guys, Luke and Psalms also, um, were kind of the two key texts for you. >> Yeah. Psalm 107 and Luke 12. Um, and so, uh, yeah, I think as God was revealing, uh, this this message, uh, weeks weeks prior, it was like, I don't I don't even know if this is there's things in here that'll always speak to me, but for this Sunday, I was like, I don't know. Um, and uh, as Henry even said on on Sunday, like um, some some coincidental events, right? And I I use coinc coincidence
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like Kenry was doing in f facicious uh tone. Can you hear tone shar? >> Always >> oozing. >> Uh but um that that that brought um uh brought to light that maybe this wasn't just for me. And so inviting Henry uh into this. And so I shared the the scriptures with Henry. And then um it was like maybe maybe this is one we do together and um uh and so that's where it came up of like what Henry went speaking to you and and again the the Luke 12 for me being the um the thread pulling that that
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thread and then Henry's like it's Psalm 107. And so Henry with Psalm 107 what was that the the significant piece within that that psalm for you? Well, what was with me on Sunday is is unpacked even more for me. >> Perfect. >> And so like it it's we read, "Oh, give thanks to the Lord for he is good for his steadfast love endures forever." And then it says, "Let the redeemed of the Lord say so." And then you then you take a journey through the rest of Psalms 107 and you
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have uh the section of 4-9 says some wandered in the waste. And it's like well who are the some well that is the redeemed. There are some of the redeemed that wandered in the waste finding no way to a city hungry and thirsty and their soul fainted within them. Then they cried to the Lord for their trouble. So that's the first group that I see um who are the redeemed who who need to give thanks to the Lord for he is good and that his steadfast love endures forever. And then um 10 through
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10 through13 10- 16 is the next ones. And it starts off with it saying some some redeemed sat in darkness and in shadow and death prisoners of afflictions and iron. And we would might immediately start to feel sorry for them. But then we also immediately are confronted with the reality that it's their fault like they had rebelled against the words of God and spurned the counsel of the most high. So this group of people is in a predicament of of rebellion against what whatever was whatever God had commanded them to do.
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And yet um we see in verse 13 that we have a God who when they had cried to the Lord he delivered them. So even in their own stupidity and their own their own um cesspool of their own making, God still comes in and delivers them, which is the steadfast love that we need to be celebrating. And then the next group is some were fools. And what fools? Well, there are some redeemed that are fools. There are some redeemed that rebel against God. And there are some redeemed that at one point in time were wandering
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looking for him. They just didn't know how. They were using their eyes but they weren't using their voices to cry out to God. And uh so then you have so you have this group of fools and then for me the last one I was like really wrestling with here and it says some went down into the sea in ships. And so some who some redeemed went down into the sea uh in ships and doing business in great waters and they saw the deeds of the Lord and his wondrous works in the deep. So I take it like these are
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people who are really confident and they have a mastery over some or they think that they have a mastery over something, right? They they do have a mastery like we would look at it like they're masters of the ocean. They're masters of what I might say chaos because that's how we're supposed to look at these waters. And then um and they're they're going out into new spaces. They're they're businessmen. They're making money. There's a level of confidence about
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them. And and a reminder, these are also redeemed. These are people that that God values. Um but then it says, "For he commanded and raised the stormy winds which lifted up the waves of the sea." So these people think that they have a mastery of something, but God's like just when you think you have a mastery of something or or I would say not even a mastery but an understanding of something that you really don't have an understand or you your your understanding is like a a small fragment
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of what you what it is what like if you think you have mastery at 100% you actually have mastery at 1%. Mhm. >> And and then verse 26 is they mounded up to heaven. So it's like they had these moments where they were in heaven. They had these moments where they were in hell. There was like joyful experiences and crazy chaotic experiences um that the that this group has. And they reeled and staggered like drunken men. They were at their wits end. And then it says, "And then they cried
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out." >> Yeah. and and the Lord to the Lord in their trouble and he delivered them from their distresses. And for me, what I was sitting in over the past couple days is is this. I wrote this phrase down um because it even ties a little bit to like when Jesus calms the storm, we oftentimes forget that the man who calms the storm is also the one who called the storm in the first place. He's God. He has authority over it all. >> So he had authority over the storm storm. We just don't think about it
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because he's sleeping which kind of might also reflect the idea that he's if he's sleeping he ain't worried about it, >> right? And he has control over that. And then he shows them that he also has control over that. So so I wrote this quote is that the same God who who calls the storm also calms the storm. And and and so uh sometimes we think we have mastery of things and God's like, "Yeah, just when you thought you did, you didn't." And and I still need that group
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of people to call out to me, too, just as much as the ones who stepped in their own mess, who were foolish, who were who were lost wandering sheep. every the every every spectrum of people across this planet still have um they're going to c they're going to get into a position where they still they're going to cry out to me. And what they need to know is is that I will be faithful in answering them. >> Yeah. Steadfast. >> I will be steadfast in answering them because it's who he is. It's the it's
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the the steadfast love isn't just isn't just a character quality of him. It is who he is. >> Right. >> Yeah. Jay, what's still sitting with you from Sunday? >> Uh yeah. So for me the thing um like starting in Luke 12 um well also I I was sitting with this the week prior like okay what what is this like what do you have here for me um because this is a not an unfamiliar passage um but also like okay God so so what's the thing here and what struck me in uh the Luke 12 passage this parable um the it's
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it's this parable of like Okay, so this this rich man has this farm and it produces fertile crops. Um, and he's like, "I don't have room. Like, I'm getting so many crops. This is so great. I don't have room. I'll build bigger barns so that I can store all of this." Um, and then once I've done that, I'll sit back. Um, like once I've worked and filled these bigger barns, I'll sit back. Um, and at that point, I'll take it easy and eat and drink and be merry
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and whatever. And then God's like, "You're going to lose everything. You're going to die tonight and lose everything." Um and and specifically he says then who will get everything you worked for? And the the worked for piece struck me because I uh I know that that part of this parable the the point here is like yeah essentially where is my treasure lie? Like what am I storing up here on earth? But the thing that struck me was the the rich man in the parable was like I'm going to enjoy life once I
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have reached this certain point. like once the barns bigger barns are built once things are stored up or whatever and so then that's a direct tie into Ecclesiastes which is another one of the lectionary scriptures where essentially as often happens in the book of Ecclesiastes is like everything is meaningless work is meaningless I might as well just enjoy life right now but that's kind of meaningless too and so there was just this um for me this sense of like actually what's happen what
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happens right now matters so like the journey that I'm on um I think that we And sometimes we can have a tendency uh to like, okay, someday I'll get to heaven and that destination matters and that's what I'm looking for and longing for. Um, and not that that's bad or wrong. Like it's certainly not the idea of uh having eternal focus, but there's something that Jesus offers us here and now. And so John 10 came to mind of the abundant life. Um and and so then the question of like yeah, what does it look
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like um for me to not just be biting my time um or working away in the here and now um even for good things as I'm like waiting for the Sunday, but to also recognize that I actually have uh I can be content in the abundant life that Jesus has offered me right now. And what's that look like? Um and and then further like if you take that point further the the piece that landed um that felt like a word for our church even for this week was like also then what what are we offering other people?
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So, when I'm when I'm looking at the people God's put in my life, um am I offering them a destination of like come to my church or uh someday you can go to heaven or am I offering them like, hey, life is hard, but but if you say yes to Jesus, he'll actually walk with you right now. Um and if I'm not recognizing that in my own life, if I'm not um content or celebrating the abundant life that he's giving right now, then it's going to be really hard for me to be telling other people about that or
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offering that. And so what tends to happen is this like yeah just uh the the invitation is like come to my church uh say yes to Jesus so you don't go to hell instead of like say yes to uh somebody who will walk with you right now like here and now through all of it. >> Yeah. And I when you and I were were looking through these scriptures and I was like, you know, when when Jesus is talking using this parable and then he offers the the statement that the man makes of like, you know, I I've I've uh
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I've built this bigger barn and I'm um many good things laid up for many years. So, uh you know, take uh take your ease, eat, drink, and be merry. which then uh Sheree, like you said, the tie into Ecclesiastes that Henry, you're like, man, I spent my a lot of a lot of years in my uh youth in Ecclesiastes. I don't I don't really want to spend any more time there. and and um for me I was in Ecclesiastes 1 and two and I was like yeah there there is this the chasing after the wind piece um that I was
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headed down this rabbit hole of like okay as he's talking about the things that we put our attention to that's like chasing after the wind um you know you're just never going to catch it um and also then my thought like what am I still doing that's chasing after the wind that's like focus on maybe something I want building a a bigger barn to store my things or get more or it's more about me and less about God's with me on this journey and I'm not attuned, you know, am I I'm not attuned
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to him. So, it's more like chasing after the wind. And so, that's where I went down this road of just the what am I still doing today that's chasing after the wind? like am I more concerned with um uh or or overvaluing something that God's like look I I I didn't I didn't put that much value on that and but you are and your bit it's too much not that God doesn't value these certain things but like I what are the things and areas that I'm putting too much value
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overvaluing and not being attuned to God. >> Yeah. Or I think and maybe the piece for me because that's that's true. Absolutely. And I think that's a question we have to uh probably always keep in front of ourselves. Um in fact, I think that's where we're headed even in this coming Sunday. Um but but the other piece for me is like where have I undervalued um what God's offering now? And I think that's what was sitting with me because like um we live in a world of brokenness. We
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live in the now um with a promise and a hope for the not yet. but in the now and in in a world of brokenness that God's still working to reconcile. Um, have I undervalued his presence with me? Have I undervalued what he's the the abundant life that he's offering now? Um, and I think sometimes the answer is yes. And I think as a as Christians as a whole, sometimes the answer is yes. And so we offer people is like the world is a mess, but someday God's gonna like do this thing. And there's this not yet
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piece that we're >> time. >> Yeah. And and um and again not that that's true. I mean yes we should set our eyes on you know things of of the eternal nature like absolutely um and Jesus is like I came to give you life right now and abundant life and I will walk with you. And so have I undervalued um what Jesus is that like have I have I missed out on delighting in him and delighting even in the world that he's created and what he has given. Um, and that was the piece for me, this this guy
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in the parable is like, "Someday I'll eat and drink and be merry." Um, and I I just wonder if God's not like, "Well, actually, like you can delight now. I've given you things things now that you can delight in >> um >> me first and foremost." But um >> and and in this way, you can I mean in the in the troubled waters you may find yourself, you you can call cry out to me and I will hear you. >> Yeah. >> Wherever you're I will hear you.
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>> Right. Yeah. And so I uh am I so focused on the destination that I'm missing Jesus on the journey with me? I guess is the piece that was sitting for me. And some of that I told this story um the week before, the Sunday before u Marcus and the boys and I went up to Snowqual Me Pass. There's like a random restaurant at the top of the pass um that's really good that we go to sometimes. Uh well, when we went up this time it was packed and I've never seen it packed like this,
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but apparently there was a marathon that had just happened. I don't know if you know this, but some people th this was like a special one because it's two marathons in two days. So these people run 26.2 one day and then the next day they run another 26.2, which just sounds so stupid, but it's a thing. Um, and so we were up there and I was uh inside like the there's all this outdoor seating. Marcus and the boys were outside. I went in to order something and I was in >> Wait, hold on. Before you continue this
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story, what's your best marathon time? >> Better than yours. Don't even worry about it. >> Come for me with that business. >> Okay. So, anyways, they're outside, they go inside. My best time is zero. >> Yeah. I'm waiting in line and there's this guy in front of me who clearly just ran um like very clearly has just run. And a guy walks past him who also clearly has just run. And so I'm standing here waiting and I'm listening. He this guy stops and I'm listening to
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their interaction. They know each other. give each other a hug and like, "Oh my gosh." So the guy in line in front of me is like, "Tom, it's so great to see you. Like, I'm so glad I got to see you today. I'm so glad you were here." And he's like, "I'm so glad you had your book with you. I've been meaning to order one and I hadn't had a chance. I'm so glad to get it." And uh this guy Tom that he's talking to is like, "Yeah, it's it's so good to be here and it's so
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good to see you and my next book is coming out in December, depending on things h on how things progress." and he says something makes some comment about um the book is going to be about running the Boston Marathon multiple times or whatever as one does. And so they have this interaction, they give each other this big hug and then the other guy keeps walking out while the guy in front of me turns around and tears are streaming down his face and he goes, "Who the allergies, am I right?" And I
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was like, "Yes." Like I don't know what to do with this. Like oh gosh, they're there. And uh um he goes, "That man right there is an inspiration." And I I said, "Yeah, did I did I hear that he's run the Boston Marathon multiple times?" And he goes, "Well, yeah. Um I think three he he'll run it for the fourth time uh this next time." And I said, "Wow, that's that's really impressive." He goes, "Well, actually, that's not the
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impressive part." He goes, "He ran he's run over 600 marathons." And I was like, "Okay, so that's impressive." And he goes, "But that's not >> likes a brager." >> What? >> No one likes a brager. >> He's bragging on behalf of this guy. Okay. But he goes, "That actually isn't the impressive part either." He goes, "He's done all 600 with stage four cancer." And I was like, "Oh, okay." So,
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>> okay, >> that's cool. >> That part. So, then this guy in front of me, um, again, tears are streaming down his face and he's like, "This this guy Tom Tom Perry is his name because then of course I did all the Googling and research and watching the interviews and whatever." But this guy um, so he does he's he's been a runner for forever. a number of years ago, he got this diagnosis of uh stage three cancer that quickly progressed to stage four. And then he uh what he said was like, "Okay,
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cancer is going to tell me what I uh can do, but it's not going to tell me what I can't do. And so every day I feel good. I'm going to keep running." Um and so he's run over 600 marathons, like 100 over a 100,000 miles. Um like he's run a marathon on every day of the year. It's cra like all this stuff is crazy and super inspirational. But the other the piece for me um and one of the things he says in in his interviews in one of his books or whatever is um he says something about like when I'm gone I
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don't want people to remember me for the numbers. I want people to remember me. Um they call him Pacer Tom. He's like I want people to remember Pacer Tom and I want them to remember that maybe I helped him cross the finish line or inspired them to run a marathon. Because in all of these races, what he does is he finishes the marathon and then he goes back as a pacer for a slower group of people. So he runs the marathon himself and then goes back to help people finish. Um, and that's just kind
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of always been his thing. And so there was something in the moment as all of that's happening. I was like, "Wow, like super inspiring." And also, God, there's something here. There's some kind of peace here. And the guy in front of me was like, "Everybody should run a marathon." And he goes, "What what are you doing up here?" I'm like, "Oh, my family and I came to eat lunch and look at the view and whatever." And he's like, "You you and your husband and your
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boys need to run a marathon." And I was like, "Well, yeah, maybe maybe that." Um, and he's like, "It's not about the running. It's it's about all the other things." And I was like, "But still, there is the running piece. Like, that's a that's like a pretty important part of it." >> You're like, "Wait, you haven't seen me run. You should you >> You're a jerk. I did not offer that." Um but the thing I guess the thing that was
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sitting so so in that moment I was like God there's something here and then towards the end of the week on Friday as I was looking through notes for this message again it uh the thing that hit was like there's somebody who understands the journey like his destination his end point like he has a pretty probably a better grasp than the rest of us do of of how uh fragile life can be because he just doesn't know on any given day he doesn't know how he's going to feel. He also doesn't know what
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his timeline looks like. Um, and with that in mind, even though that's true for all of us, with that in mind for for him in a really tangible way, um, he's like he he does understand what it is to enjoy the right now and the here and now and to make this matter. Um, and and so there was something in that piece of like, yeah, where have I undervalued what God's offering right now and the life that he's given now? >> Well, like to choose choose today. I I mean uh yeah I maybe having a grasp that
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like of mortality and the I don't know when the end is coming or um how I'll feel in this day but I'll choose today to live. >> Yeah. Yeah. Cuz I think that's some of what I hear in that parable which is not something I've ever pulled out before because I think typically I just always think it's about the like greed and trying to get more. But I think that's some of what I hear is like you spent all your life working and waiting for like at some point then I'll enjoy this
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life and now you don't get to cuz you like God's like you will die this night. So then then what? And so there is something about like am I choosing today to delight in God to value um to be content that Jesus is with me in this? >> Yeah, there you go. Maybe start with a 5K. >> I have done a 5K. Thank you. >> All right. Oh, multiple and a 10K. Stop. Don't talk. Don't say anything else. Henry, what's God saying? >> Don't you think everyone ought to know?
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Sure. >> No, because you're going to offer it in a way that doesn't make me look good. And I don't know what that's going to be, but I'm not going to come across well. That's what I know. >> Okay. Maybe Henry just wants to know. Henry, do you want to know? >> I do not want to know. >> Thank you. Oh my gosh. >> Welcome, Shay. >> Thank you. cuz it's all meaningless. >> It's all meaningless. Everything is meaningless. >> Well, I mean, but I say that in just in
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this conversation, but like like even while you guys are talking, I'm reading about 61 year old, which at this time he's 61, he's now 60 five, 65, stage four prostate cancer, all that running. But if the destination he's running to isn't to Jesus, it doesn't matter, >> right? >> It's cool that he wants and and I look, look, I'm not being critical of that. It's just in the context of this conversation, it's >> it's like the fascination with that is
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those are that's amazing. Um, but we we don't we don't run just to cross the finish line. We run to obtain something like Paul says, too. And even at that, I have a hard time imagining that cuz I don't run. Um, unless it's dinnerbell or something like that. I don't know. But, um, I think in the end it's it's also I want to know more of Mr. Perry's story. I think that that's really super cool. I not as much about the running part, but like >> where did he come to? Did he have a
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moment where he cried out to God? I I don't know. Um. Right? >> Because ultimately that me going back to 107 because that's the only space that I stayed in. It was like, yeah, I don't Holy Spirit's not guiding me into these other spaces. We're just right there. And um it's like ultimately all of these happen. Um I wrote down, are you do you feel like a wander? Do you feel like a rebel against God? Do you feel like you're one of the stupid people? Do you feel like you're the confident one? And
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really at the end of the day, all all four of those what they had in common was is that they came to a point where what they were doing um was not enough and they needed something more. And what they needed was they they needed the steadfast love of God so that he could step in and and guide them, take them, free them, um take them to higher places that than they thought they had gone before. Um, all of that comes from the one who who is is in it all and he's just st he's just sitting there waiting waiting
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for us to to to to cry out to him. I did a the cry out thing is like kind of like Zedek, but it's like two different types of cry out and three times are just a loud cry with a general desperation, but one of them is an intense cry or an emotional cry. And I found it interesting that the one that was the intense intense cry or the emotional cry was from the ones who rebelled against God. like there was a there was a deeper sense of their stupidity and that when they had finally come to a point which who knows if that's two days
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or 10 years or whatever it is that that type of cry was very different. Um, and I don't I don't I'm still trying to figure that out. But >> well, it's like ones who know like I need a rescue and a rescuer I'm desperate. >> But but I also think it's I need a rescue or a rescuer and it's the one whom I rebelled against I have to cry back out to. >> Yes. >> Right. The other ones, they don't necessarily have an idea, but the ones who did rebel against God's word, they
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they're like, "Look, I put myself in this situation knowing full well that the one who I'm going to have to cry out to is the one telling me not to do this." >> Yeah. It requires a different kind of humility to cry out in that space. Yeah. >> Yeah. Well, as we uh bring this uh episode to a close, uh let's share Cyros. what's God saying and how is he inviting you to respond? Um I feel that most of our conversation so far has been God. So uh um I don't know whether it's we need to
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tie tie that into a bow of like here's I think what it is that God's saying and how he's inviting me to respond but um yeah let's let's share Cyros. >> Go ahead Henry. Um, mine is when I think I have mastery of something, I don't. And and even in that space where I think I have an understanding of what I'm doing, even when I'm chasing and pursuing God, there's there's still a time where you still need to call out to him. that like when you feel like
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everything's going really really good, there is no need to call out to him, but there actually is a need to call out to him. And sometimes and sometimes even in that journey where you think like everything's going really good or you think you have everything mastered, what he's really wanting us to do is is go, you know what, I don't have all this mastered. And in all actuality, I actually do need you. I don't I I'm I'm trying to do this all on my own power because I know how to do all of this
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stuff allegedly or I think I do. Um and and then you're you're in it and there's this this measure of of this humbling experience of okay, I've been brought to a point where I thought I had control or I thought I had an understanding of what's going on and I just don't and and that's okay. But but also the cool thing is is like like you also get to witness all the amazing stuff that God's been doing. And so I've been sitting in that space with the with the the guys in the boat or the
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guys on the ship. It's just like, you know, mastery over the ocean's pretty cool. And you can think that you have full mastery of it and then all of a sudden you hit a wave that takes you as high as you've ever been and you're like, "Oh my gosh, this is awesome." Like a roller coaster. And then you get to the top of that and the boat starts to tip back down and you're like, "Oh my gosh, we're going to die." And in both of those experiences, um, you're witnessing
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that God's going to take you somewhere you never been before. It's not the destination, it's the who are you doing it with? Who who's walking alongside you and who's going to call? And I'm not saying yes, it's your friends. Yes, it's all those things. Yes, that you're like if you're using the boat example, it's like the captain and the shipmates and all that. Yeah, you're doing that with someone, but at the end of the day, the one who you're doing it with is the one who has control
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of the calm sea as well as the one whom called the waves and the wind and did all those things so that you can cry out to him and then he can go, "Okay, I'm with you." Because that's what he wants to say. He wants to say, "I'm with you." He wants you to recognize that you think you're out doing this in your own power and you're not. I am with you and and I want you to reach out and I want you to acknowledge that I'm with you and I'm actually the one who's in control of all
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this. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That echoes my chyros which is um uh at the face value it was the the man building a bigger barn just to to store up his stuff and having no mind of of of God. And um and that's really where Jesus sends this parables before this parable before he gets into the don't worry, right? Don't worry about tomorrow. Um but the like what am I putting my the question for me is was like what am I putting my hands to my effort to my attention to? Um and uh do I have in mind that God is with me? I
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have in mind that God desires to be with me and the things that he's even provided and put before me uh to to to put my hands to to work at to um uh you be a part of of my life and of of ministry and of um yeah that God's like I want to be with you in that I've I've prepared this for you. I want to be with you. Uh so in that way it's like my very presence like don't don't think that what I've put before you that that's just for you. I want to be there with you. That's why I put it there. And I
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want to be with you as you do it. Uh like the invitation of God um coming to Adam and Eve in the cool of the morning. I just want to be with you. I want to be with you. And I've put you here in this garden to tend to it. So there's work to do. I want to be with you while you do it. That's good. Uh I think for me um the piece that's sitting is the continuation of like okay so if the first thing God's telling me or reminding me um is that it isn't just about the destination but
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it's about recognizing or or where I've undervalued um him with me in this journey. If that's the first piece then the the continuation of that is like is uh how does that show up in the way that I'm interacting with the people around me? Um and so like 2 Corinthians 5 came to mind and this idea of like being an ambassador of reconciliation um in some ways even that parallel between this idea of like um and and again the analogy probably breaks down at some point but with this guy who's
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like I just finished a marathon and I'm going back and I'm I'm walking with other people. I'm running with other people um to help them get across the line uh to to encourage them to support them to be with them on the journey. And so there's something in that. And even the the guy in front of me in line, he was like um like one of the things that struck me was just how passionate like honestly I probably am never going to run a marathon. Um but he was so passionate about it. Um and and so there
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was just something really like uh a good reminder of like he this is something that has he loves that he has found um joy in in so many spaces. And do I look that way when I talk about the Jesus that I've found that I'm walking with? Um and when I'm when I'm talking to other people about like, >> yeah, this is what life looks like for me because I said yes to Jesus. Um and so there's something in that um that when I think about being an ambassador of reconciliation, like maybe it it does
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look more like that um than what we make it out to be sometimes. So >> yeah, it's good. How many 5ks have you done? Sure. >> I'm not answering this question. >> I think uh >> you mean >> here I'm gonna help you again. >> I'm gonna help you. >> I'm gonna we're gonna deflect that that question and we're going to go to I think the other thing that jumped out in the story that you told me is how many times do we turn around weeping with
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this realization of just how awesome God is >> and then going the allergies. Am I right? >> Right. In fact, you've said that to me, Henry. >> What? The allergies. >> Yeah. >> What? When? >> When you had to get off your tractor and lay in the middle of a field cuz those darn allergies got you. >> No. Well, that was a legit thing, too. I mean, >> actually, allergies. No, it wasn't. >> I was rubbing my face in the grass. So, I mean, there's like
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>> Okay. Well, that Okay. Allergies after the fact to like have a reason. It's not the same. >> I was just like, am I right? >> The blades of grass needed a little bit more a little bit more nutrients. Yeah. >> Irrigation. >> Um but Henry, before we wrap up this episode, um why don't you share on this one just um about the impacting to you? Um like so if people want to know about Impact Campus Ministries, if people want to know about what God has in called you
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into and what you've said yes to, um where where can they go? >> Um how much time do I have? Three minutes. Is that what we're looking at? Well, I just learned this phrase not too long ago, but there's it's called a sizzle reel, apparently. >> You just learned it. >> Well, I'm never going to be on one of those. >> Oh my gosh. Did you have to Google that, Deon? >> Don't Google it. It could lead to bad things. >> It's a legitimate thing. Um, so, uh,
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like you, like it's really interesting because a lot of what's going on with impact, at least with us in our in our church, in our community, the language is just starting to bleed out a little bit into some spaces and that's really cool to see. Um, with Impact, you can go to www.impactthe.com. I think it's.com. I'm pretty sure it's.com >> because I'll put it in the because I >> I'll put it in the show notes. >> Is it oorgg or.com? But it's.com. Um you
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can go there. You can just kind of get a a small snapshot glimpse of um what impacts about some of the language that you'll hear me using and and some people are are picking up is is that we have this desire. Our values are to pursue, model, teach. And and the pursuit part has nothing to do with the people that are around me. has everything to do with me and and I need to be pursuing an intimate relationship with God. And then as I'm walking around in my ministry space at the college or just in my
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everyday life that um I'm modeling it and I'm not even knowing I'm modeling it, but the reality is I am modeling this pursuit of an intimate relationship with God. And then I believe that through both of those things then we're invited into this opportunity to to come alongside and teach others and that's what we're doing at the college campus. I'd say we're doing it with students but I I think the question that we're navigating at Centria is how do you define a student now? It's not the
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traditional student. we have it's a generational conversation but it's not just students it's faculty and staff and and that's been a really fun journey to be on. um but pursue model teach also because we believe that when when students leave the college and go into the workforce um what we're what we're wanting them to understand is is that whatever profession that they choose to go into whether it is ministry or not whether whether they're a doctor, a lawyer, a teacher, a police officer or whatever a
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construction worker, whatever they decide to go into and do it is in fact actually what we would consider that to be their sacred vocation and and if they're if they also have picked up this idea that they need to pursue Jesus so that they can model it to their co-workers or their their employers or their employees. Um it also will enable them to also come alongside people and teach what that looks like and that's multiplication and disciplehip and and that's that's how we impact the world. And so that's why if
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we believe that if we impact the you we impact the world. And so that's that's the model that's the mission of impact campus ministries. So >> yeah, >> in a nutshell. >> That's good. >> That's a good scissor reel. >> Really? Okay. Well, >> maybe when you do the scissor reel, you can give me some hair. We'll [Music] just I I'll I'll put it in post-prouction just like Shay. We'll put it in the show notes. >> Sizzle real
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kids these days, >> honestly. Um all right, guys. Well, thanks for being with us on this episode of Beyond Sunday. We hope and pray that your conversations are going Beyond Sunday. So, take care. [Music]
