Beyond Sunday: Walking with Jesus Means Loving Our Neighbors

Catch up: this week’s Sunday morning message.

Do we love God? Do we love our neighbor? Jesus responds to the question, ‘how do I inherit eternal life?’ with the Shema: love God and love others. Who are the ‘others’ in our life? How is God calling us to love them? We love our neighbor by showing mercy.

Catch up: this week’s Sunday morning message.

• Transcript

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  Hey guys, welcome to the Beyond Sunday podcast uh where we take the conversation beyond Sunday. We are um at the lake today. >> Yeah. >> Which is pretty cool >> because summer, why not? >> Yeah. Yeah. We got to spend time here today uh with our our practicing the weight group. And so we've had a full day at the lake and we thought this was a good place to record. But before we get to this week's sermon um and the conversation of what God's continuing to say, check out this video.

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  Heat. Heat. So, what's the big idea in the scriptures we were going off of? >> Yeah. So, uh we're still in the enlarging the circle series. And so, this week we were talking about, uh what it means to love our neighbor. So, walking with Jesus, loving our neighbor, what that looks like. Um for us, we were mostly in Luke, well, our kind of our our base text was Luke 10. Um, and we were looking at this conversation that Jesus is having with an expert in the religious law where uh he's asking

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  questions trying to kind of just trip up Jesus and um he's asking about the greatest commandment. And so then this is a text that's fairly familiar, but Jesus uh answers a question with a question which is uh pretty on par for him. >> And um and so then we get what's known as the shama. Um, right. So, the the expert in religious law um is recounting is is quoting this uh passage from Deuteronomy that says, "Love the Lord your God with all your heart, your soul, your mind, your strength." Um, and then

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  he says, "And also love your neighbor as yourself." Um, which which also comes from the Old Testament. And so then, uh, Jesus is like, "Yep, that's that's right." Well, the the religious uh expert then kind of is like, "Okay, well, so then who is my neighbor?" So that's the question that we kind of sat with and focused on. And then Jesus from there uh the way he answers that is with a story. And so he tells a story that we all know as the the story of the good

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  Samaritan um where this guy is beaten um and left for dead and then we've got a number of people that come by um and just kind of pass him by before somebody stops and actually cares for him. And so that's the the text that we were in and we branched off into some other kind of cool connections that I um had found as I was reading and studying and praying through. Um but mostly Luke 10 for us. >> Yeah. And same with us and um even utilizing Luke 4 and Jesus's mission statement when in that text um Jesus is

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  um during a Sabbath goes to the synagogue um they're reading from the scroll of Isaiah. He gets up and he and he reads from the scroll of Isaiah. And uh there we see that in Luke 4 is like his mission statement. Here's here's what he's come for. Here's what he's doing. Because he reads that portion of Isaiah 61 and then he sits down and everyone's looking at him. He says, "In your hearing, this is fulfilled." >> A powerful powerful statement. Uh it's a

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  powerful text anyway, Isaiah 61. But then again, a powerful statement of Jesus standing up and doing that early on in his in his ministry in Luke Luke 4 that then fast forward to Luke 10. he's having this interaction with this expert in the law about um you know yeah who's my neighbor after the you know the the initial question and the initial question was how can I have eternal life and then this ends up it's funny how the the trails of the conversation for um the question of how would I how do I

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  inherit eternal life to then the other part of that is the how the conversation evolves is well who's my neighbor >> and one of the things that came to mind for me while preaching actually as it was in my in my notes is that um I don't actually get to discern or decide who my neighbor is. >> Uh it's not up to me. >> Um we we describe neighbor as um people that we come in contact in the ordinary flow of life. >> So it could be my actual physical neighbor, but it could also be co-orker,

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  anybody really I run into um in the ordinary flow of life. Maybe that's a stranger at one moment, but maybe it's also somebody I see on a regular uh weekly basis, daily basis, whatever it happens to be. But I don't get to choose. I don't get to decide this. This will be my neighbor. I will choose my neighbors. >> Yeah, it's interesting that you say it that way because that's um that is true. Absolutely. And that's what we had talked about too is like um and I I love

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  that essentially when the word neighbor is used in the New Testament, that's how it's used is like somebody who is in front of me in the ordinary flow of life. And it's interesting that you're saying I don't get to choose because for me that felt like I don't have to figure it out. Um so while you're right, I also that also means I don't get to choose. I don't get to to pass by or walk away. It also means that I don't have to like who am I going to help? how am I going to or

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  it's like as I'm about the things that God has called me to do and the places that I work, live, and play, the people who will show up in front of me, uh those are the people that I'm called to love and to treat well. >> Yeah. >> Um >> Yeah. And so as um that's like maybe release of the control aspect of I don't I don't have to decide. I don't I don't have to worry about um or have anxiety about like, yeah, who's my neighbor? It's just like God will God is working

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  and providing and putting people in our path um in in the days and the moments that he's leading us in. >> Yeah. There's a freedom in there's a freedom in it. Yeah. >> Um where I would um where where sometimes maybe we want to prescribe or even I think that's what the that's what the expert of the law is asking, right? Like well who is my neighbor? Okay. So and is what that ends up looking like is okay how many people how many people do I have to right? Um, but there's such a

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  freedom in just trusting like, okay, uh, as I'm walking along, as I am doing my life and and doing what God has called me to do and and going where God has called me to go. Um, and that's the the other piece of that is that's what I don't know, it looks like Jesus to me because that's what we see him do. And I I love that you pulled in Luke 4 because that from that mission statement on arguably before that, but from that moment on, uh Jesus is very aware of where he's headed and what he's doing.

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  And essentially Jesus's ministry, uh like we can track it to basically look like on the journey towards the cross, he stops every time that he he senses God is working in this place or God puts somebody in front of him or whatever. And so we even talked through that like he's going along and somebody grabs his robe or he's going along and someone says, "Hey, my daughter died." Or he's going along and he sees a man in a tree. And it's like there there the these are not people that Jesus um either sought

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  out or that he determined ahead of time like okay so that's somebody that I'm going to love or that's it's like as he's going along. >> Yeah. and somebody's in his path. Um he's he's close enough and that's what uh for us uh kind of where we landed in the story of the good Samaritan is uh this idea of proximity and margin. But uh for Jesus he's like yeah I'm close enough to see and I have space in in where I'm going and what I'm doing to

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  stop and say yes. >> Yeah. and and the tiein too of even Jesus utilizing the ones in the the parable of the good Samaritan, the priest, the Levite, and then the Samaritan, right? Who the ones that should know like this is um what we are to do, how we're to um to care. uh because his question Jesus's question to the to the religious leader, the expert in the law after telling the parable of the good Samaritan is who was the neighbor to this man who'd been beaten and robbed and the expert in the law

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  replies the man who showed mercy. So the one the unexpected one the one that um you the the expert in law come his background his understanding like wouldn't assume that that would be the person who's the neighbor >> right well and even I don't know Jesus just uh nothing is by accident right so even the like this this was interesting to me because uh that's a typical um outline or template for telling a parable uh that rabbis would use. Right? So, it's like we have the joke like, right? Um,

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  but the the typical outline would look like, okay, so we've got a priest, a Levite, and a Pharisee. And so, even as Jesus starts to tell this story, inevitably the people are like, okay, so it's going to be a Pharisee. And so, for him to say Samaritan, already there's like you you I imagine that people are like the whispers, the like, wait, he's he's doing this wrong. What's he saying? So, already people are leaning in like what what is this? Um, and then there was another another thing, another piece

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  for me that stuck. There's a tie into 2 Chronicles that I I mean, I've heard the story of the Good Samaritan so many times and not ever really looked into it or or understood this, but um, and I don't want to recount the whole thing, but in in the Old Testament, um, there's a space where after God's people, uh, the the kingdom is divided and they're not obeying and they're not obedient. And so all of a sudden there um it says God allows for uh essentially war and like 120,000 people die in one day and

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  then like 200,000 women and children are taken captive. Well, they're taken to Samaria and there's a prophet of God in Samaria who's like hold on God allowed you to uh you know for God allowed for this to happen but you've taken advantage of it essentially is what he's saying. And he's like you've gone too far. uh you need to remember that these are your brothers and sisters. This is your family. Um and so the people in Samar in Samaria do they they're like yeah and so they let all these women and

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  children grow 200,000 of them. And so uh some of what I was reading was just talking about how like uh even in the the context of the time regardless of the feeling towards Samaritans in that moment there is this call back to like I I even just wonder as Jesus asked that question like who's the neighbor? there's got to be this call back to like these are your brothers and sisters. So, it's actually literally anybody in front of you because there isn't even though the the divides are so deep in that

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  culture, which is true for us too in different ways, >> but but it's so deep in that culture and Jesus is like don't you forget >> these are your brothers, your sisters. Yeah. Um and so it's whoever's in front of you and there I don't know that just um >> but also even how true for us today. I mean, we have families that are divided on um various lines, political lines, ideology, whatever. But there are divisions that exist and maybe even they're they're getting more. They're

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  getting deeper, >> right? >> We don't have the in in the US, we don't have the kind of history that that Israel has, that he uh the Hebrew people have. um especially what we read in scripture, but even here and now with the the little bit of history that we do have within this country, there are even more and more deeper divides. Um and they seem to be getting deeper when it's reality of we're following Jesus. It's actually we're we're the ones to cross the lines. We're the ones to cross the

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  lines in such a way to bridge the gaps, the divide. um to to say like you're you're whom God has put before me >> to love and to care for to to see that you you are here for me to to to interact with >> Yeah. >> to love to be with. >> Yeah. And there's something about that um that idea of crossing the lines even that you just said which uh that's what's that's what we see in the story, right? And so that for me um that idea of proximity just hits so hard

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  because when Jesus is talking about the so first the the priest it says when the priest sees the man he crosses the street. So he doesn't even like we don't know how close he gets but when he sees the man he crosses the street. The the Levite gets a a little bit closer and it says when he comes upon he crosses the street. So he comes up to him he crosses the street. the Samaritan gets like right up in there and then it it I know you're going to love the Greek word um and I'm not going to say it because it's

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  ridiculous. There's too many consonants next to each other, but the Greek word that we translate to compassion there um it means to like yearn with your bowels or like to be to be moved like it's it's this like guttural ache that causes you to act. Um, and every time it's used in scripture, it's either used if it if it's used in a space where it actually happens, it's it's spoken of about Jesus. So Jesus is moved with that kind of compassion and every time he acts. If

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  it's used when he's telling a story, it's always the God character or figure that's moved that way. Um, and so the I don't this the thing for me that sat there was actually like if I don't get close enough, >> I might not be moved that way. So, um, even what you were just saying, it's really easy for me to put people into groups or to, uh, group causes or politics or whatever, and it's like those people that thing, that whatever. >> But if I'm face to face with somebody,

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  if I'm sitting next to somebody who has different beliefs or comes from a different background or voted differently or whatever, it's a lot harder for me um, to like group them and not see the the pain, the person, the humanity. Um, but if I'm willing to get close uh and and to hear their story, to to um feel their hurt or whatever that is, it's different. It's it's different when I see the face of somebody, when I have a conversation, when I engage, when I interact, then that's there's just

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  something about that proximity that like >> moves me. But also how interesting if the word a compassion and that way it's used and Jesus uses it, he's attaching it to the Samaritan, even more of an impact on who he's choosing to put in that parable, >> right? >> He just isn't saying or doing anything by accident, >> right? Uh but one of the questions that came after service that I thought I put in my notes here for for the Beyond Sunday podcast because I was like yes um

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  it's not often that that that's happens and I'm like it's still in my mind to put in there but the idea of like what if my neighbor whoever the neighbor happens to be >> has hurt me >> and like what's my response there? What how do I how do I love my neighbor? Love God. love my neighbor. Um if there's been uh hurt or mistrust or something's taken place like how do I keep showing up in that in that place? And um what in the moment um one of the things that

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  came to mind was like I think actually first is love God >> and then out of that >> comes love your neighbor. And so if there is some some a discord, a brokenness, a hurt, a hangup, whatever exists with the neighbor, then I think actually the coming back to the first one is the priority, right? that out of that loving God, might he do a work in our heart to transform, to provide maybe >> to provide a way, an open door, an access point to bridge the gap or to provide healing for ourselves in that

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  moment prior to um the the loving your neighbor part because it we can go to like love God, love your neighbor and go right to action and think like I just have to do it. I have to this is what I'm supposed to do. >> But when we show up that way, we can kind of be disingenuous about it. I'm supposed to do this, so I'm going to do it. But it isn't really what we sense God, you know, spur spurring us on to that. It's a like I'm supposed to, so I will. >> Yeah. Right.

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  >> So, not that out of obedience is bad, but if it if it becomes like then that that can um breed, you know, seed um you know, just a a lack of humility and discontent. And I just don't think that's what God's calling us into when he's when he's calling us to love our neighbor, love God, and to love our neighbor. So, that that's what came out after Sunday. I was like, "What if I have a relationship in my life who is a neighbor, somebody I see regularly, my ordinary everyday life,

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  >> right? >> But there's brokenness there." Well, it doesn't matter how we show up then. >> Yeah. Yeah. And I think I think also understanding the word love there, like what's it mean? What's Jesus actually asking of us? Um because there is real brokenness that exists with the people around us sometimes. So, uh, even if that's how we're defining neighbor, like the the sometimes the person that's in front of me in the ordinary flow of life is somebody who there's deep hurt or or

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  it's not a or even like >> that's not a safe it's not a a safe thing or a safe place. So, what does that look like? Well, I I do think like love is action. Yes. Um, and the story of the Samaritan certainly shows that, but there's also a posturing of like um and and I this is the the other thing that sticks for me because it says, "Love your neighbor as yourself." And I wonder if some of that isn't um what what that really is is like do I just see people the way God sees them? Um

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  which means that when God sees somebody who uh has inflicted or caused pain, um when he sees that brokenness, his heart aches. um his heart is broken for it, but he still sees them as a child of God, as somebody made in his image. Um he doesn't excuse the behavior ever. I don't see that of Jesus ever, right? >> Um but he doesn't he also doesn't ever not see them as someone made in the image of God. And so I think for me and there also is something about that idea of like do I see myself that way? Do I

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  understand in myself that um there there's brokenness that exists in me? And sometimes it's of my own doing and it's my own uh choices that have made that. Um but what is never not true of me is that I'm made in the image of God. Yeah. And so if I know that and believe that of myself and believe that God loves me um then when I see other people and the person right in front of me uh if there is hurt or if there is um something that's unreconciled, do I still see them Yeah. >> the way God made them the way God sees

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  them? >> Yeah. The other thing that I thought was really cool and I'm interested we we actually haven't gotten to talk about uh the sermon at all before now, which is um maybe unusual sometimes we were having this conversation beforehand, but I thought it was cool that this sat at the after STP um because for me that felt like on so many levels um so much example of loving what it looks like to love the people you come upon. Um, and so, uh, even even just like I mean there were so

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  many and and on Sunday I was able to like just kind of share some of what that looked like. Uh, not only because your church hosts these riders, so the Seattle to Portland uh, bike riders and your church hosts them so well and certainly loves on them. Um, and that like it was super cool to be part of that. But even in the stories that the writers were telling as they come in and uh one guy Doug that I got to meet uh he you know people were like oh my gosh I saw him stop and change a tire for somebody and I just was like is that not

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  like is that not what this story is he doesn't know them from anybody technically it's I mean it's kind of a race whatever but also like you're writing a lot you really would like to get in and like >> be done. Um one guy was telling me and I just thought like this was such a cool thing. He was telling me uh when he was in his 20s um he had done a race similar to this. Now he was in his 40s, but in his 20s he was like, "Yeah." He goes, "I thought I was hot stuff." And I like

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  went out here. I knew what I was doing. He goes, "I only drank water the whole day riding. Didn't eat anything. Didn't drink anything else." You can imagine by the end of the day, he said his he goes, "My body was cramping so bad that he was like I almost couldn't even like pedal my bike." and a woman like rides up behind him and his he was cramping so much she could see like something was not right. So she rides up next to him. She's like, "Dude, I I can tell you're

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  cramping." She goes, "I know you don't know me from anybody, so you don't have to trust me, but I have this pill." And she's telling me what's in it. Magnesium and whatever else. She goes, "If you just crack it open and put it under your tongue, it will help what you're going through." And she goes, "Again, you don't know me. You don't have to take this, but if you want to." And she hands it to him. So he's like, he goes, "I'm

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  going to die one way or the other." So he's like he pops this thing open, he puts it under his tongue and he goes literally within like 30 seconds to a minute everything just calmed down and he could like move again. And he looks up and she's gone. And so he's telling me, he goes, "She was like my little bike riding angel." And I just I'm like reading this story that Jesus is telling and I'm like that's what it is. Like she didn't have to stop. She didn't have to

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  give him anything. Like and and I think the other piece is that we read the story of the good Samaritan and it seems like such a big act, right? So, I would like to think um that if I see somebody in that kind of like at the very least I'm calling 911, right? If I come upon somebody who's like left for dead on the side of the road, um as is often the case, sometimes it's the smaller things that are actually like >> Yeah. >> harder, right? So, like, >> well, the things that will maybe cause

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  me to redirect and divert my original plan. I know for me >> are the bigger things is what you're saying. Cuz that's the thing for me. It feels like if there's a major emergency, if there's something like that, I'm going to be more apt to like stop uh what I'm doing or whatever. The little things that seem less consequential. >> I'm like, I don't know that I'm always stopping or paying attention or going slow enough or whatever because I what I think and the the reason that matters, I

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  think, is because loving your neighbor doesn't just mean saving their life on the side of the road. >> No. Well, Correct. But um the other part of that is even those little things but also the big things either one of them they'll slow us down. So if my >> if my focus is to move forward and have expectation to move in this direction at whatever at whatever pace and I'm not just talking about walking or riding a bike. I'm talking about in life >> right >> that if these things slow me down divert

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  me >> um that there is a wrestle within me. >> Yeah. There's a wrestle uh to say okay or to slow down to take notice and to do something about it if when God has provided resource for that something whatever it is or even just to be near to be present. >> Yeah. >> You talk about proximity. So it's that wrestle within me of um does it matter? >> Yeah. >> Does it matter? And so one of the stories one of the writers told me is her first time staying with us. He goes,

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  "I'm staying with you guys because my barber did this two this ride two years ago and she said in our conversation like,"Well, you're going to do the when I told when he told her he was doing the STP, she said, "You have to if you're going to do a two-day, you have to stay at the church. They'll take care of you." >> Um, and so he rides in and we greet him when he rides in. Um, and he's like, "Yeah, I'm here." and he tells me the story and I'm like I mean yes because we

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  do our desire is to to care well to I mean it's 100 miles to to Centroia 100 miles out back towards Portland on on day two. So like we're just we're just halfway here like can we can we feed you and and give you enough care and rest? >> All right guys, welcome back for the second time. Um you may notice that we're in a different location. We had a little um >> power issue. >> Yeah. So, fun fact, recording at the lake is super fun. But there >> if you have a charged up um equipment.

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  >> Yeah. But shout out to this place for having a place we could charge it. So, uh when we lost power, you were busy telling us about a guy who heard about this stop uh from his barber. So, >> yeah. And so, the reason he's staying with us is his bar barber is like, "You got to go to the church. They'll take care of you." Um and this is how they'll take care of you. And so that's what he ended up um um during STP then staying with us. And then when he was leaving

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  he's like she said it she said what what she said was true. Mhm. >> Uh and and yeah, being able to be cared for and uh fed well and back up back out on the road, which does in in a way, like you said that it's we're we're hosting for STP and then on the heels of that, we're preaching about Luke 10 and loving your neighbor and the parable of the good Samaritan who does find someone broken, weary, robbed, and and beaten on the side of the road. we and during STP find people halfway through the ride, 100

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  miles in uh tired and weary and broken and um maybe even some spirits a little drained of especially on a 90°ree day thinking tomorrow I have to do this again. Yeah. >> In 90 degree heat I have to do this all over again. >> Yeah. Well, and I also think though so yes, all of that is so true and there's a space um even there was one guy who uh was like I'm actually not going to finish it. I'm not going to be able to finish. Um, and so it was like there was a a chance to say, you know, his

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  question was like, "Hey, like I have a ride coming on the second day. Um, how long can I stay here?" And I was like, "You can stay actually and you're not in the way and you can leave your stuff here." And so there's there's space for that. But I also think like >> uh loving my neighbor doesn't just mean when they're broken or weary or whatever. And that was the other piece I guess um that I it was cool to be part of STP right before preaching this because there was well certainly the

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  story Jesus tells about the Samaritan does emphasize that. Um but elsewhere in scripture and all throughout Jesus's life, what we see is him just like noticing people and and meeting them where they are. And so, you know, listening to them, learning about them, hearing their name, like those kinds of things. And so there's just I don't know checking people in. and I got to check uh most of the writers in. And as I'm doing that, there's just this chance to like, is this your first ride? Where are

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  you from? Tell me about your, you know, a little bit about yourself and your story. And there's just something about um I don't know, it's not just loving our neighbors when they're in crisis, but am I am I caring for the people around me the way that I want to be noticed and cared for and um the way that God notices and cares for? >> Yeah. >> So, what would you say to Jakaras? I >> was going to ask you that. May first. >> Okay. Um, for me, what's sitting? So, we

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  we talked I said before uh we kind of landed with uh proximity and margin. And so, we already talked about the proximity piece like am I am I even getting myself close enough? And some of the questions, reflection questions we asked at the end like um yeah, do I get close enough? And who are the people maybe that I cross the road? um where where I see somebody coming and I'm like and even like I don't know I fessed up I guess but maybe we've all done this where you'll see somebody in a store you

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  know and you're like oh not today I do not have time for that business today um and but but is that a confession yeah so I did on Sunday I was like so um but is that like is that a missed invitation um to to say hi to a neighbor to love on a neighbor and maybe not always but if I'm feeling convicted enough of it that I have to confess from the platform maybe. So, but but for me the biggest piece um and this is not a surprise but it's margin. Do I have margin in my schedule? Do I have margin in my day? Um whether

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  literally like in my calendar or in my brain and my focus, do I have margin that when I see um when I recognize or or do I even have margin to recognize? One of the things that came to mind was a couple weeks ago um I was heading to hike in the morning, which um has become something that especially on weeks where I'm like, I just need to get out and away and hear God. Um there's a hike near us that's cool. And so um it's like a 10-minute drive to the trail head. And so I was driving uh early in the morning

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  and I saw a gal from our neighborhood um who is an acquaintance but has become a friend and she was walking her dog um out of one of the trails. And so I drove past and I had this thought of like I should text her and say like, "Hey, I just saw you." And I was like, "Yeah, later." And I was driving and I I was like, "No, I should do that right now." And so I hit the stop sign, texted her like, "Oh my gosh, I just saw you. So funny." Um, and I just said, "I didn't

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  know you were a morning walk person. Um, we should walk together sometime. I'm headed to hike." And so it turns out that she goes, "Oh my gosh, I love that hike. Did you realize you can actually do it from the road you live on? You don't actually have to drive." And I was like, I surely did not. And so the next day, um, her and I hiked and and we I didn't have to drive and I've been driving 10 minutes to and from multiple times a week. And so that was a cool like side thing. But also what that

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  meant is I got to walk with her and have conversation with her. Um, and and get some updates on some things that I've even been praying for. Um, and I I just what I recognized in that moment is that um I chose to create margin in my in my brain um in my day, in my week even cuz then the next day, you know, she was like, "Let's walk." And it was later than I normally do and whatever. But I chose to like I think this is something you're inviting me into, God. And so I chose to make margin. Um so where are

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  the places that I haven't done that or that I don't do that and what am I missing? And so, um, it's not surprising, but that's the thing, like, do I do I have margin in my schedule that that when I come upon somebody and God's inviting me in, I can stop it. >> That's good. It goes in line with um with mine. Um this idea that what the Samaritan did um it cost him it cost him whatever he was doing wherever he was going to be late to cost him funds and caring for him and

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  putting him up in the end and paying the inkeeper to care for him until he got back but it cost him >> and so there's this idea in >> this what God's inviting us into what what Jesus is is calling us to to follow as he is um uh live this out and it's calling us to follow him in this way. It's going to it's going to cost me >> but it's worth it. >> And that has been a it's not a new chyros. It's one that we've even called out before like to follow Jesus will

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  cost you everything but and it's worth it. This is another one of those um reminders I suppose along the way especially in the parable of the good Samaritan if this cost him something and I don't suppose I don't always go to that um idea that of the of the Samaritan and what it cost him. Um >> yeah and also that like that that's such a good point because we always do say it'll cost you everything but it's worth it. Um, but it may not be worth it in the ways I think because it cost him

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  everything, but um, what did he what does he gain? >> Um, it doesn't tell us that. It's not it, you know, it's not like for me like, okay, so I paused, I send a text to a friend. Well, now I I learned something new. I don't have to drive this far. I get to hike with a friend, whatever. Like, that's great. um the c the the payoff the value it may not always be >> well it's it's certainly and it can always be measured in the ways that we measure here on earth but kingdom value

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  >> kingdom measurement um likely that always exists we may not be able to see it in the moment >> um but um it's also like the the where is your treasure or my my story of treasure here on earth or treasures in heaven the treasures in heaven don't look like the thing the treasure here on earth that that doesn't have the same uh look, same value. It's you can't equate it. >> Yeah. It's like it'll it'll cost you, but you look a little more like Jesus.

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  >> Yeah. So, that's the chyros for me that that seems to be echoing again. Just don't don't forget um the cost. >> Living this way will cost you. >> It'll cost you. It'll cost you everything and it's worth it. And um I Yeah, I know that. I can say it, but in these stories and scripture and also things that we've shared about like it's worth it. >> In some ways, we do see we get little glimpses, >> little tasters of of kingdom, God's

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  kingdom breaking in. >> Um, which does help us helps me >> continue on like, okay, thank thank you for giving me that glimpse of your kingdom goodness. >> Yeah. >> Well, thanks for joining with us in this episode. Sorry, it's broken in in a piece between by lake and in a cabin. But um yeah, we look forward to uh more conversations be that go beyond Sunday. And we pray and hope that your conversations uh that you're having are going beyond Sunday. That things that

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  are said on Sunday in a sermon, they're sparking thoughts and ideas, conversations, um questions, other scriptures that uh maybe God's leading you in to to speak um something more than than just what you heard on Sunday. So, thanks for joining with us. Have a great week.