Beyond Sunday: God redeems, restores, and makes things new

Redemption brings restoration. God restores and makes things new. Will we trust Him to redeem the brokenness in us and around us to bring about restoration so we can experience new life in Him?

  • 00:00:02           [Music] Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Beyond Sunday, where we desire to take the conversation deeper. So, welcome in. And I'm here with Shay. Shay, we're virtual today, so  big bummer on that one, but how are you doing today?  pretty good. How are you? I am I'm great. I'm great. I'm I'm repping Rip City. , they're not in the playoffs. It's fine. We're We're making it through, but today's a good day. Okay, good. Hey, check out this video before we dive in. [Music] All right, guys. Welcome back. As  we

     

    00:01:26           dive into this conversation, let's start off with the big idea and the scriptures that we were in from Sunday. And so, Shay, what was the big idea from from this last Sunday? Yeah, this week was God  redeems and restores and makes things new.  so, in this like talking about trusting the guide,  you know, the first part we talked about character and nature of God and then the last few weeks have been kind of focused on Jesus. And for me, I think this one kind of brought that together. Like it's

     

    00:01:53           through Jesus that God redeems and restores and makes things new. , so that's where we were and we were in  well a number of places. For us, we were in Acts 11  John 13, Revelation 21. I don't  you I think started with a psalm. We actually didn't use the psalm this week.  I did. I started with Psalm 148.  the idea of like  the progression of this God's given us reason to praise him if he's a  trusting that he is a god who redeems, restores, and makes things new.  and and knowing that trusting that he's a

     

    00:02:36           god who's worthy of our praise. And then we went into yeah the the other scriptures that you mentioned.  yeah, but one of the things that  one of the things that yeah stood out to me that even was coming into the week was  this idea of I I brought my juice my frozen juice concentrate. Yeah. Are you going to eat it right now? Because I sensed it's been a while since I've done that. I don't know how I got this and super glued it back onto the top, but there was a sense that this what God was.

     

    00:03:18           I'm for sure out of practice. Yeah, clearly you should have tried this out. No, I got it. , is it God invites us to this concentrate? E, I actually am surprised that they even still sell that. I didn't know they still sell these. Is this mango? Mango orange. Is it good? Oh my gosh. It's like a Yes. Look at Do you realize how how that's supposed to make a whole picture of juice, but you wouldn't drink a whole picture of juice at once probably. But you're about to eat that whole thing. You think it's

     

    00:03:54           one? Six servings. Oh, wait. Anyway. Yeah. You're about to get diabetes. Is there a lot of sugar? I'm sure. Yeah. That's supposed to be a whole picture. Okay. 28 grams. That's less than your soda can in I don't drink soda. Don't come for me. 28 gram per serving. No, I don't drink soda at all. I think it's disgusting. You don't think that you think that's per serving or that's per the whole can? What does it say? Well, it says six servings in this container. Serving size is two fluid ounces. Okay.

     

    00:04:34           ounces. How is that a That's a thimble. How is that a serving size? Two. It probably It means probably two ounces of that. Not with water. Oh, yeah. Correct. Concentrate. Two fluid ounces. Yeah. And  so the two bites you just had, the two bites you just took, that's your serving. You just had one more because this is really This throws me back. Yeah. Well, it's just know that you just drank a half a picture of juice right there. M. So, okay. Do you want to explain to the people what that has to do with God

     

    00:05:10           redeeming and restoring and making things new? Yeah. Was the where have we settled for the diluted  what God's inviting us to of of redemption, renewal, and res and  reconciliation or or even new creation? Where have we settled  for the the the diluted version of God's kingdom rather than  trusting and knowing that what God is is is doing is more like that concentrate in the way that it's it's not diluted. It it is it is fully him and he and he desires for us to walk in that kind of way and and be with him.

     

    00:05:50           And in a week week leading up to this last Sunday was was that for me  and this even on on Sunday is I'm like  you question was rolling in my head where have I settled for the diluted portions of God's kingdom or it's been diluted and I've I've settled for it. I've been okay with it.  and it's not it's not fully what God has invited me into or us into. And  and yeah  that place of where where have I been okay with it? Yeah. And and and where am I recognizing that there actually is something more a fullness

     

    00:06:31           that renewal piece and the new creation. I think I even go to to Revelation  21 where he says I'm making everything new. I'm making everything new and I'm I'm sitting back in the  metaphorically in the like dilapidated or like it's at least a dwelling. It's at least it's at least like a handme-down.  so it's it's still functional. It's still usable, but it's it's not new. Yeah, it is not new. And I've settled for the been okay with like you know it's it's it's a hand-me-down. It's a I mean I'm third I'm the youngest

     

    00:07:08           of three. So, I everything I got was a hand-me-down. , new things did not come around very often, except when I took a bite of of juice concentrate. Yeah. When you stole it, but even as the favorite, you didn't get new stuff. Oh, yeah. Hand-owns. New stuff was stuff. My mother, bless her heart, would make us. So, she would sew us a brand new suit. Maybe you should put that picture in when you edit this. The people probably want to see the picture of me. Picture me in a in an Easter suit that was

     

    00:07:43           handmade by my mom. Yeah, it was a itchy fabric. So that it didn't last very long. You can imagine those us as poor little kids coming into Easter Sunday just itching, wanting to itch our arms off because of itchy fabric. Yeah. Things we do for our mothers for Easter pictures. For Easter photos. No wonder mothers were so just like just smile. Let's get this over. Just smile. Give me the car. Just smile. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But but that was the the piece of the the you know from John 13, Revelation 21

     

    00:08:16           of what God is in inviting us into when he's inviting me into is to his fullness.  this new creation that he's making things new that  that even in this revelation that that now the dwelling of God is with men and he will live with them of what good God desires to do.  and this idea of dwelling with God has been an echo throughout all of last week into Sunday even into today. It just seems to be coming around more and more and more. U and what we talked about last week  not in the podcast

     

    00:08:52           but just you and I as we're prepping and planning for the coming year was  the invitation to dwell with God and when we dwell with God he's able to fill us and and that's more of the like for me the concentrate idea  that he's able to fill us and even now as I talk I have the residual of the flavor of this orange mango in my mouth because it's so it's so concentrated it's so potent Yeah. Yeah, it's good. But now I really want another bite. I'm just going to leave it over there and try to reseal it. It It's

     

    00:09:28           going to be all melty. It's also not as cheap as it once was or or affordable. You probably bought the bougie kind. Mango. If you got a lot to choose from, I'm going to be honest with you. You could have got just apple. That's probably cheaper. Yeah. Oh, no thanks. No thanks. Okay. Well, this was the second week in a row, first of all, that I  what what ended up coming out on Sunday was not what I had in mind Saturday night.  so Sunday morning, God was like, "Hey, actually, this is the word that you're going to give." And

     

    00:10:02           I was like, "Oh, cool. Okay."  I don't know, a little more heads up, but it's fine. It's fine, God.  because what was landing for me Sunday morning was  the idea of newness, redemption, all of that.  but the the understanding, the recognition that that doesn't always look  like we think it might or that we  when we are redeemed and restored. If I if if I'm restored,  that implies  something being whole again or complete again.  but I actually I I I don't know what it is to live in a world

     

    00:10:45           that's not broken. I don't know what it is to live in a world that's fully restored  or fully redeemed.  and yet this is what God offers and what he he promises through Jesus. And so for me it was kind of recognizing like that means that it might feel really uncomfortable. , and the the newness and the redemption and the restoration, while it's good and I I know God to be good and it's what I desire, , sometimes new, even if it's good, feels uncomfortable and it feels different and it feels outside of what I expect or

     

    00:11:15           anticipate. And so, , part of that then is like understanding like what is what is a redeemed, restored life? What what is it to be a new creation? And this came out of  some of our conversation last week also about like what does it look like to be new creation?  where are the places that that's going to look different than the world that I'm used to or different than what was? , and then also in that is a trust of like, okay, so do I trust that  if God is redeeming and restoring even if it's

     

    00:11:48           painful or it doesn't look the way that I anticipate it to look, , do I trust that it's good because it it's what he's offered and it's the redeeming. And so, , yeah, and I think I I saw that in, , well, I think we actually we can see that in much of scripture, but I see that in even the passages that we were in with, , you know, John 13 when Jesus is like, "Hey, I have a new command for you." And I I imagine like these these disciples, I don't know, like leaning in like, "Okay, here, like

     

    00:12:20           we're, you know, we know the other ones. What's this one?" And then he's like, "You're going to love each other." And I don't know, we see the disciples argue and bicker and fight a lot. And I don't know if they're like, "Seriously, Jesus, that's that that's what it is." And he's like, "This is the new thing. This is the thing I want for you." And I I imagine that it looks different, you know, as they're whatever they're expecting or anticipating in the way that they think that Jesus is going to

     

    00:12:43           save and be the Messiah. , as he says like, "I have this new lie." Imagine they're like, "Okay, cool. We're going to go, you know, kick some butt somewhere or whatever." And he's like, "You're going to love each other." And they're like, "Seriously?" , and then even with Peter, , because then right after that, Peter's like, "I'm going to die for you." And Jesus is like, "You're not even going to say you know me. Like, you're you're not even going to call out the fact that that you know me." , and

     

    00:13:09           I just and then we see Peter in the in Acts, and we'll get there, but , we see Peter boldly speaking truth, speaking the gospel. We know that Peter has been redeemed and restored, but I wonder if he is probably like, gosh, that's not the way I would have wanted that to happen. Like, it would have been super great if I didn't deny Jesus three times. , and then even yeah, in Acts, , the the passage we were in in 11 where Peter's recounting kind of the his experience with the vision with the animals and

     

    00:13:39           the, , and then going into the home of a gentile and all of that is outside of what was anticipated. So, as these people as this people group are waiting for a Messiah and a savior that's been promised and they're expecting redemption and restoration and all of that,  they they didn't expect it to come in that way or to look that way. And so, I just there's something about that  that we know that that was uncomfortable because we see it walked out, right? They're they're fighting about it. They're arguing about it. So,

     

    00:14:09           where in my life  is it like gosh, this is really  this is uncomfortable or it doesn't feel good or it doesn't fit in. And God's like, yeah, because this is the this is what it is to live a redeemed life or a restored life or  to be my new creation.  and so, yeah, that's that's what was kind of sitting there. There was a  again Sunday morning  an NT Wright quote that I found that he said  Jesus's resurrection is the beginning of God's new project not to snatch people away from earth to heaven but to colonize

     

    00:14:41           earth with the life of heaven. That after all is what the Lord's prayer is about.  and so we actually what? Yeah. Bringing heaven to earth, right? which also tracks with what we had talked about last week in the room and that idea of like  if I dwell with God and allow him to fill me  then I'm going to carry his glory into the places which is actually what I I would argue is probably what God designed us for in the first place. He says fill the world, multiply  bring essentially like bring my glory

     

    00:15:14           into these places. And so that idea of like  yeah, heaven coming to earth  like the way he says it, colonizing earth with the life of heaven  that idea that that is what it is to live a redeemed and restored life to be that new creation.  and he calls out the Lord's Prayer. So we actually opened with the Lord's Prayer.  and then we did because that that's the other piece. The Lord's Prayer sits in  it sits in a space where like there's a lot of red letters in the Bible in that in those

     

    00:15:46           few chapters, right? So, this is Jesus talking and most of what he's saying is so  radically countercultural to what they would expect.  and I just in all of that I it's almost like I could just hear this echo of Jesus saying like, "You want redemption and restoration? Well, blessed are the poor. You want redemption and restoration? Blessed are the meek.  treat each other in this way. don't even get angry. Like all of those things. And so we're I don't know  maybe out here like redeem us and

     

    00:16:15           restore us and make everything new and good. And God's like, "Yeah, I I can I will, but it's it might not look the way you  right." And even and even to  thinking back to John 13 because before he gives them, you know, a new command I give you is to love one another.  and then, you know, part of that is that others will know that you're mine by the way that you love. Prior to just prior to that, the the  position that Jesus takes is kneeling before them to wash their feet as one of a servant of  you

     

    00:16:47           know the way in which  this could look  not the only way but a pretty a pretty powerful way that this  loving one another looks that if in in posturing ourselves or positioning ourselves to serve one another is actually an act of love  in the way that we see Jesus. is kneeling down before his disciples, washing their feet as they're as they're getting ready for this this meal, this supper, this feast  for the last time before he's arrested and and then  and then the rest of the of that story of

     

    00:17:21           crucifixion and resurrection. So  there for me there is something in the the not just the words of love one another but what takes place prior of this action that for me  just gives  a visual to what this actually looks like. Yeah. And that drew me like you know as you say that this this  redemption may not be in the way that we perceive to be or we may not be comfortable in in in what how how it's going or what it looks like. But  it often I find myself in those places that I'm actually

     

    00:18:02           more attuned to receiving what God  desires or or or the being filled as I dwell with him because I'm not in a place of comfort. I'm in a I'm in a place of of   well sacrifice but like submission. I'm in a place of submission and submitting before before God. And  here is a posture and a position a place in which his spirit is filling me, dwelling with him, walking with him, his presence in me and also going before me into the places that that  that I get to be about that work of reconciliation, about this ministry

     

    00:18:46           of reconciliation. And  it is typically almost never comfortable. Right. Right. Well, , yes, that's true. But that's because it's, , it stands in contrast to the world around us. But I also think the other piece of that is like if it's because of his spirit in me. , maybe it's still not comfortable, but there is some level of like , , I don't know, that's where the goodness, that's where the wholeness and completeness comes from. Yes.  of like this is actually what I was created for.

     

    00:19:23           This is what I was meant for.  and so there's this but I've settled for a diluted version. So I'm like ah what is this? Oh it's really good. I mean it's like the conc concentrate  the juice. It's like this is tasty. It's it's good. And but like this is not what I am used to. I've settled for something less. Right. Yeah. But I think that there's this thing in in all of us that calls us back that calls us to a wholeness or a completeness that we're we are  as of yet unfamiliar with because we don't

     

    00:19:57           know what it is to live in a in a world that is whole and fully  restored. But there's this thing in us.  because I even  so in this what I ended up  kind of talking about also at the end was like the market.  because I saw so so in in kind of fleshing this out on Sunday morning for myself  as I was talking with God. It was like some of the practices that come to mind that that we've been walking through. , and this idea may maybe also this idea of like, oh, so you you're redeemed and

     

    00:20:31           restored, then this is what this is what it looks like to live a life that is redeemed and restored. And so, , some of those things like practicing Sabbath and fasting and prayer.  those those things  are maybe some markers of of a life that has been redeemed and restored if we if if we're doing those things in the context of like I I I love the way that  like John Mark talks about it because it's like Sabbath is the idea of rest, right? Rest in a culture of hurry and exhaustion. And so that is

     

    00:21:02           countercultural, but I wonder if God's like, you want to live a redeemed and restored life, then I've called you to rest in a space where everybody around you is is anxious and hurried. , or, you know, I've called you into communion with me in a space where everyone else is trying to be distracted and  escape or whatever whatever those things are. And so we kind of walked through  some of those things as a reminder of like hey if you if you are desiring a redeemed and restored life if you want

     

    00:21:32           to live as new creation maybe God's invitation is like hey do these things rest commune with me whatever  but in that  I the the market came to mind which  Wednesday night was our first market and  we there there were a couple moments there where I just was looking around and I was thinking like I can actually see some of these things happening here like  multiple different people  family groups neighbors whatever sitting around I we had 60 chairs  12 tables and most of them are full the

     

    00:22:07           whole night and so  as I'm looking at that I'm like people people just sitting and sharing a meal and this idea of like in a world of hostility in a world of  individualism where we keep our heads down or whatever the here's these people  who at least for a moment for a couple hours on a Wednesday night  there's like this glimpse of like what it might look like for redemption and restoration and new creation and even the idea like in in Acts like Peter's like this is mixed people groups right

     

    00:22:39           and and you know whatever and so there were a couple things in that that just felt like a  a calling to  this redemption  redemptive life but as I was thinking that out. I was thinking like the gal who runs this market, who put this together in the first place,  what she has said is that she she started this because she wanted an opportunity for neighbors to put their phones down, to look up, and to see one another. That's like kind of her whole thing. So, she felt like the the market is kind of the way that she's walked

     

    00:23:10           that out.  but this came from a desire of recognizing like we don't even see each other. We don't even see the people around us.  and and so that so much of that looks like  I think when a new creation, a redemptive like there's so many redemptive res restorative aspects of that, but she's not a follower of Jesus. And so that even for me was like God God's kingdom is breaking in and that that Lord's prayer of like your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Like God's kingdom is breaking

     

    00:23:40           through. , sometimes it's breaking through in places and through people who don't actually realize that's what's happening. , but I want to call that out and I want to recognize like that is a redemptive restorative picture of new creation and I can step into that and I can recognize like and that doesn't mean it's comfortable that it it takes a lot of work to do these markets and to do those things. , but if that's what God is offering, like, hey, you want to be redeemed and you want to be restored and

     

    00:24:09           you want to live like new creation, this is what it is. , you know, I I don't know. No, I think you do know that's a that is a wonderful picture of seeing it it it break in and and then calling attention to it, right? That this is  what's taking place. And the other   the cool part of that is is who  where where that is coming through people that know Jesus and people that don't know Jesus yet.  that  or given their life to him that that's taking place there and we  who who have given our life to Jesus call that

     

    00:24:47           out call God's kingdom coming here to earth  and  redemption taking place  even kind of this newness or new creation  of that's existing there of  especially in some of those places like for your your church and this ministry at the market of of hospitality  and caring for people who are coming in offering tables and chairs to sit at cuz otherwise there would be nothing. You'd have to sit on the curb and there would be no area of hospitality. But the fact of the church, your church and your people coming in to

     

    00:25:20            set this up and to provide hospitality  is a beautiful picture. In fact, not even not not only that, but like a picture of what we see what what Peter's describing in Acts 11 that  he's given a vision. go to this this home  here and go with these visitors who've come to to receive you and  and he's you know  he's already been given a vision of like don't call anything unclean that I have made clean.  he goes into Cornelius's house. He gives them the good news of Jesus and the gospel message essentially and they all

     

    00:25:56           of Cornelius's household  are repent of their sins are baptized there  and are converted in following Jesus that Jesus is the way  and and it's out of that hospitality that both Peter receives and coming in because he shares a meal with him and that's what in Acts 11 there are the the church council right the Jerusalem counsel are like we've heard reports that you had a meal with Gentiles and that is not something we are supposed to do. So, you're going to have to give account for this. And

     

    00:26:26           so, he gives account in Acts chapter 11. Here is is what has taken place. , it was not my idea to to do this, but God had given me a vision. And so, faithfully, I followed. , and as I followed, here's what I saw Jesus do. Here's what I saw the spirit of God  redeem and reconcile and make new is is everyone in this household. And that and that I I would sense it coming back to the Jerusalem council in Acts 11 like and maybe and maybe the spirit of God is not just for us. Yeah. Maybe the spirit

     

    00:27:02           of God is moving beyond where we can even see, right? Yeah. And that's the idea of the heaven of heaven coming to earth in that right like  this is if these things are being done out of the spirit  leading prompting guiding  then yeah that is heaven and then that's where else like  I don't know maybe maybe redemption and restoration are less prescriptive than we want them to be because it's like wherever God's working and moving in that space through whoever he's working and moving through.  I don't

     

    00:27:36           want to miss I don't want to miss the kingdom  because it I'm expecting it to come in one way or one space or whatever. , and I think that's even the the like that's part of with with the market what we have said we  a year ago, maybe not a whole year ago, a couple months ago, Jamie and I  were having well actually it came out of the the pastor conference  that we were at down at at your church and they were talking about in one of the things they were talking about table church or something. I don't know. There was like

     

    00:28:08           a a  thing about that. And so then Jamie and I were having conversation and just this idea that like  when we invite we felt like God was reminding us that when we invite people to a literal table  it it lets them know that they might be welcomed at his table. And that's the idea of like  heaven meeting earth.  the the message is not like  necessarily repent of your sins and someday you'll go to heaven. It's like hey do you recognize you're welcome at this table? and it at at this literal 4

     

    00:28:42           foot table that's probably sticky because the person before you spilled whatever on it. But like do you recognize that you can sit here and we had that's one of the cool things.  this has happened multiple times now. But  we had this time a gal  she had like food in her hand. She had like a baby on her hip. She had a toddler near her and she walked up and she was like is anybody allowed to sit at these tables? And we're like absolutely like please have a seat. And you can just see like I don't know there's like a

     

    00:29:07           countenance thing that's like  okay there's a place for me here and for her I mean she had a bunch of stuff in her hands and she's probably overwhelmed and just needs a literal like physical place to land but  there's also something in the like I don't know maybe you just need to know that you're welcome in a space and that might not be true in every space that you're in. Yeah. , and there's something in that and and I think that's what we see with Peter. , and in in that like the entire household

     

    00:29:35           is saved. They need to know they're welcome. Like you're welcome in into this thing into this space. , and that is heaven. That is heaven coming down. And it it happens. I guess the other piece of that for me is like  that that's in such a way something like the market and just saying like, "Yeah, of course that table's open for you. you can have a seat. , that is not what we are taught that redemption looks like  in the church, right? We we're taught like conversions. We're taught like join a discipleship

     

    00:30:09           class, come to my church, whatever. , those things are we're not taught that. We're we're not told that. Like that's a picture of a redemptive, restorative world. , where God is putting the pieces back together in that. , and it just maybe that just it looks kind of normal like a Wednesday night market. , but we're calling out that, you know, that's the kingdom breaking in. Yes. Yeah. , I often think in pictures. It's how my mind works. It might also be this  juice concentrate that's flowing through my veins at this

     

    00:30:45           point. Or the massive head trauma that you've experienced over your life. That's why I think in pictures. Is that what you I don't know. Maybe the words the words part of your brain has damaged. All I have left is hieroglyphs. Here we go. So that I   and some of this comes out of our conversation  last week in preparation, but  where the temple and the tabernacle were meant to be pointers of God  filling his his glory in the earth, right? But if you think of that as the earth  like this arc below this

     

    00:31:20           earth here and heaven this arc up above heaven and earth and then there's this in between space and if you put  the tabernacle and the temple  being pointers of how God desires to bring heaven to earth  through these spaces that he fills the tabernacle, he fills the temple with his presence. People come and and  and commune or connect with God or in his presence there. But  as we read scripture we understand that through Jesus we now carry the Holy Spirit.  we now are the temple here on

     

    00:31:53           earth that  if heaven is coming down to earth, we sit there in that in that place in in the in between of saying Lord may your heaven come here  to earth and may we be the ones that can help bring that  not in our own strength not in our own ability but because of who you are Jesus and us and and that we've given ourselves to you  and and your Holy Spirit has filled led us to the place where now  we're calling we're calling heaven down like this raining heaven down come down and here as we're as we're here on earth

     

    00:32:30           part of that mission of  that others would see the glory of God. Others would experience and know God. Others would see him. others would would  come to recognize that there is a God that so desires and loves them and wants to be with them and to save them that he's inviting  is inviting into a relationship so that the Holy Spirit can fill them and then they can be more of  of bringing more of a a individual or place to bring the kingdom of heaven here to earth to see about reconciliation see about redemption

     

    00:33:06           in that place. And one of the things that was convicting for me was like, look, God's going to do this anyway. It's his mission. It's his plan. He's going to do it whether or not you say yes, right? It's on you. But he will do it, right? And and even that story at the market, he will even do it and use people who who haven't given themselves to him, right? He'll use he'll use  those moments to to see about redemption and reconciliation to take place. But when when we're willing to say yes to him and be filled with his spirit, now

     

    00:33:36           we have an opportunity to to see and bring heaven to earth here and those around us to experience it. And that sounds like a really fun new creation kind of deal to walk into. Not comfortable always, but pretty fun, right? Yeah. So, is that  well, it feels like it's time to ask what's sticking with you and what your kairos is, but it also feels like you might have just said it. But is is that the thing or is there something else or something more specific that's that's sitting with you that a kairos?

     

    00:34:13           Yeah. What is my kairos for this week? I I go back to the [Music]  where have I settled for a diluted version of God's kingdom coming, his new creation?  where have I settled for less than his fullness and gone my own way, tried to do it my own with my in my own in my own way, my own thing. and  and he's reminding me look I some of this is taking place yes but not the fullness of my presence not the fullness of my  design and mission. So  yeah it's like are you are you tasting it? Is it is it is it tasteful?

     

    00:35:04           Does it taste good? Is the is the flavor linger?  like all of that in in the idea  of yeah is it is it concentrated or is it diluted so that's part of my kairos of in the spaces in my life where asking the question where have I settled or been okay or comfortable with the diluted  filling desire that God has for has for me Yeah, it's good. How about you? What's your  Well, it's similar.  maybe without the fancy concentrate picture, but  the idea of  yeah, we can do these things.  I can do the behaviors and the the

     

    00:36:00           actions, the activities of redemption and restoration to a certain extent. I can do those things apart from the spirit of God. So I can read about what Jesus did and I can  mimic or imitate  some of those things.  but if I'm doing them without the spirit  then then I'm missing so in the same way that you're talking about I'm missing out on the fullness.  there was like a a CS Lewis quote that I found that said something about  him being surprised that after conversion after he he becomes a

     

    00:36:38           Christian whatever  finds God  that the surprise of how many things like he's like it's still just doing the same things like that you still have to do the same normal things but hopefully you're doing them with a new spirit. Yeah.  and so that idea of like  I do not want a life that looks Christian or looks like Jesus or even is like bringing  in some ways reconciliation and restoration into the world around me but with the absence of the spirit of God.  if I'm not starting there, if I'm not starting

     

    00:37:12           with the presence and the fullness,  then God can work like we just said, like you just said, God can and will work.  maybe in spite of that, but gosh, I'm missing out on actually like the the whole point of redemption and restoration  and and that newness. And so I think that's the thing that's sitting. Yeah. Good. Good. God speaking, we're listening.  all right, guys. Thanks for  being with us. And that that's our hope is is  taking this conversation beyond Sunday that there are that God's speaking and that you're

     

    00:37:50           listening and and processing and having people to do that with  so that   there there can be transformation that takes place.  we can hear a good word and let's just go about our way. that  if we hear a word and we hear  God speaking to us in that and through it  what might the what might the transformation what might what transformation might take place if we're willing to to go beyond Sunday. So thanks for being with us.   we hope and pray that your conversations are going beyond Sunday. Take care.

     

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